By Nomad NYC
Hello! This is my very first post in the PalmTalk! I've lurked here on and off over the years, but only recently joined this forum.
This new thread will document my "insane" project of trying to grow a Canary Island Date Palm ( aka Phoenix Canariensis ) here in Southern Queens, New York City - currently in Zone 7B. I've always interested in growing exotic types of plants all my life. But I first became aware of this particular palm after managing to germinate some seeds that I picked up from in front of a very big pot-bound Canary Island Date Palm that happened to be in front of the United States Botanic Garden (USBG), while I was visiting Washington DC back in 1994. For around the period of twenty years, I grew a CIDP in a big pot, and despite it becoming quite large , it didn't flower so I never found out what sex it was.. Unfortunately in late spring of 2015, I took it outside, as usual for the season, and it suddenly died during a brief freak heat wave.
I then attempted to grow Canary Island Date Palms again the next year, from seeds purchased from RarePalmSeeds.com, but out of ten of those seeds, only two germinated, and of those, only one seedling survived. Then in the following year, in 2017, during a visit to San Francisco, I collected a bunch of seeds from a CIDP at the southeast corner of Union Square , which when I returned to New York, I promptly planted , with most of them easily germinating . From those seedlings now consist my current crop of Canary Island Date Palms ( about four of those palms ) but I had so many previously, and didn't have the space , that I gave most of those palms away .
During the beginning of the Pandemic, I was stuck at home, watching more YouTube videos than I would normally, and happened to come across a few Palm enthusiast "Zone Pushing" palms in places that were not their original optimal growing area. So I figured, why don't I try to do that too! I decided to try and plant several varieties of cold hardy-ish palms that was growing at the time, outside in ground - two CIDP, and four Sabal Palmettos at my house here in Queens, and two CIDP , two Sabal Palmettos and two Sabal Minors at my sister's place in Brooklyn. Of all the Canary Island Date Palms that I planted in ground in 2020, only the one Palm that was germinated from that seed from RarePalmSeeds.com was cold hardy enough to be able to survive so far ( All of the San Francisco seed germinated palms planted in ground did not survive the winter of 2020-2021).
Following are some of the initial pictures that I took to document this Canary Island Date Palm project -
Original planting location - June 2020:
Fall 2021 - first full year in ground at new, final location:
Here is my Winter 2021 - 2022 protection for the Canary Island Date Palm:
March 2022 ( Spring , after removing winter protection )
Yes, I admit, it doesn't look so hot right now , but it should improve when the weather warms up ..
That's it for now - I will try to update this thread monthly - and thanks for taking the time to read about this crazy endeavor of mine!
By Little Tex
Found This palm survived unprotected in Southern Humble Texas
There was 2 queens one died, and dead washingtonia next to it which makes it remarkable this one survived.
Nicest Aceolorrhaphe wrightii I have noticed, all survived but this is the only one I’ve seen where the existing trunks survived, even a big one on the island died to the ground and started regrowing. There were only ever a handful around to begin with that I’m aware of.
I had know before that palms grew in El Paso and Del Rio but it did not occur to me that they would grow in the big bend. It would make sense because the location dips south and has the Davis mountains blocking north winds and there are lower points in elevation such as by the rio grande where it would stay warmer. The zone is considered 8b by the usda.
Here are some pics before the big freeze (not mine)
and some after pics but they survive.
Can somebody please help me out, I am currently growing W. Filiferas, T. fortunei, R. Hystrix, C. Humilis and a couple butias. I lost my biggest W. Filifera this last winter due to fungal infection, I’m wondering what do you use? Daconil or Copper Fungicides? Also what brand of Anti-dessicants if any do you use? Any input will be greatly appreciated.