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Requesting a seedling ID

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palmfriend Grand Master

palmfriend

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Hi there,

 

I know it is very hard to do an ID of a seedling but since I am growing almost all of my palms from

seed I think that I can not recall having seen one with an already such beautifully developed

second leaf.

Please take a look:

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While the first leaf looks quite usual for a seedling, I was surprised how developed the shape of the second is...

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... and it almost looks like to be polished.

Here a photo of the seed:

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At the moment I have no clue. May be it is a seedling from a delivery I ordered once and lost track about or

probably a picked up seed from somewhere I have been - I don't know.

Any ideas or guesses about an ID are appreciated, but if nothing comes up - that's fine, too. In that case I will 

just wait and see what it grows into. 

 

best regards from Okinawa -

Lars

 

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Tyrone Grand Master

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I think it’s a Satakentia. 

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Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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DoomsDave Grand Master

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Flip the leaf over so we can see the underside.

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Steve Mac Grand Master

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This is one of my Howea F volunteers.

Despite the similarities I doubt that is it however because that new smaller lighter leaf does become darker and thinner as it ages and looks like the first.

The seed is similar too but still probably not enough.

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Cheers Steve

It is not dead, it is just senescence.

   

 

 

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Tyrone Grand Master

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When I first saw the pic I thought Satakentia as Ive had small Satakentias before at that stage. They're a very pretty seedling with that high gloss on the leaflet. Also in Okinawa they are a native palm. I'd be very surprised if it's not Satakentia luikensis.

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Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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palmfriend Grand Master

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Hi,

thank you very much for your time and thoughts!

I think @Tyrone nailed it. 

But first as requested the underside of the second leaf.

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After taking these photos I went outside roaming around looking for a Satakentia seedling in my 

garden - here we go...

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It looks pretty much like the one I requested the ID for...

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I think it is a Satakentia liukiuensis - which throws me back to the beginner's level of palm IDing. :blush:

Unbelievable, living among them while didn't see the wood for the trees...

 

However, thank's again for your time,

best regards 

Lars

 

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Tyrone Grand Master

Tyrone

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3 hours ago, palmfriend said:

Hi,

thank you very much for your time and thoughts!

I think @Tyrone nailed it. 

But first as requested the underside of the second leaf.

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After taking these photos I went outside roaming around looking for a Satakentia seedling in my 

garden - here we go...

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It looks pretty much like the one I requested the ID for...

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...

c9.thumb.jpg.a1e7d04bf7c149c9bca2a3893fe00289.jpg

I think it is a Satakentia liukiuensis - which throws me back to the beginner's level of palm IDing. :blush:

Unbelievable, living among them while didn't see the wood for the trees...

 

However, thank's again for your time,

best regards 

Lars

 

I wish my climate was warm enough to have heaps of Satakentia popping up. I have one specimen in a pot that I protect every winter along with my two Kerriodoxa. I need to make a hothouse to house them in. Enjoy your Satakentia. They are an amazingly beautiful species.

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Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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palmfriend Grand Master

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@Tyrone ,

Thanks a lot for your help in this matter!

Satakentias are indeed a beautiful species

and I enjoy looking at them all the time. It

is probably due to the fact that they are

all over the place and grow with almost

no care that keeps you away

from paying a close attention to the very

young ones.

However, lesson learned, 

best regards - 

Lars

 

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