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Mr.SamuraiSword

As I am presently living in Nashville, I wanted to get the scoop on palms in the area. On a FB palm group (NAPA I believe) I found a guy who lived in Henderson (20 minutes north of East Nashville) Tennessee who offered to show me some of the palms in the area.  I was very surprised that there were any unprotected palms besides Needles and Sabal minor, and was more surprised at how many I saw in a relatively small area.  Ill add he knew of more but It had gotten late, and we plan on doing another palm "hunt" in the future.

First this large windmill palm near Old Hickory Lake.  According to the owner he bought two windmill palms about 15 - 17 years ago (this being one) while in Orlando around a 5 gallon size after asking about palms to grow in cold hardy climates.   Sadly the other one died (visible in photo) a few years ago after a winter, it simply declined and died.  The guy who was showing me around was pretty sure it wasn't cold damage as it was apparently a mild winter.  This palm has never been protected, and the trunk was about 17 feet tall.  

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Notice all these volunteers too.

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he also had a smaller one he planted around 8 years ago.  very fat trunk. More volunteers too.

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Few other Windmills around the area. This one on a property right on the lake.

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Two more by a pool.

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The guy who I went with also had a very impressive garden.   He had some non palms that were still impressive But i will add those at the bottom of this post.

Sabal palmetto, never protected, under a small roof area, planted 15 years ago.

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Another palmetto, this one's first winter.  Not bad damage considering this winter was colder then most, apparently duration wise.

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Needle clump around 20 years old.

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Not sure the age on this one.

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Lots of nice Sabal Minor, some of these he believes aren't fully sabal because they have outgrown some other Sabal Minor he planted much earlier.  Either way he has around 20 - 25 planted around and had a literal bucket full of fresh seeds.

These some of the self ID'd Lousiana, sold as Minor. He also said these would sometimes get very mild burn while the full minor didn't.  All were purchased as minor.  

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One in back right is Sabal Birmingham.  Two others are minor.

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These are apparently full Sabal Minor.  These were older then the others.

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Windmills too, planted around 8 years ago dont fully remember.  None of these palms have ever been protected I should add.

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Back near the lake, We also stopped at a place with two Sabal Palmetto palms. He apparently had never stopped here to ask so we did.  The owner said he dug up the "palm" in Jacksonville around 15 years ago.  He did not think It was a palmetto, though when we looked we decided it was, and told him as such.  apparently its slower then usual growth rate is due to the owner having a habit of cutting off all fronds with noticeable burn, and ice damage.  We also figured he thought it was a single palm and probably dug up several of them in the same place at once.  Also never protected.   

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At the Henderson Memorial park, apparently there used to be a Sabal Minor and Birmingham (the latter donated by my "guide"). The Birmingham died somehow, and the Minor was pulled out after over a decade to put in a trash can (yeah I know).  But down the peninsula, into the woods a little, were many Sabal Minor naturalizing littering the ground, near some swampy areas.  There was easily over 100 mixed in spread out over 100/100 feet 

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There were some other houses we passed by with palms,  he knew a person who owned this place, and apparently this a Sabal Birmingham. No other palms on the property

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Another windmill. Some of the plants looked like they had been wrapped including this, so we assume some fronds were cooked by Christmas lights. He intends to going back to warn them about it.

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also a needle at the same place.

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Another home with large Sabal Minor.

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They also had a needle and a smaller Minor too.

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Now for some of his other rare non palms. Yucca aloifolia for starters. This area really seems like a 7b despite its zone designation.

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Sago Cycads, been there at least 5 years, come back every year as perenials. both have green here,

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Two live oaks laden with Spanish Moss.

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Some kind of Eucalyptus I forgot which one.

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I ended up getting one of the Large Windmill palms offspring while we visited.  I have since cleaned it and potted it better, this was the only photo I have.  

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Reyes Vargas

That trachycarpus in the first picture looks beautiful and flawless.  I'm not a big fan of trachys but that one looks amazing.

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Allen

Looks great you were just about a hour from me.  Nice photos

 

 

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Tennessee Palms

Alright before people get confused, he's Referring to Hendersonville Tennessee not Henderson, Henderson is nowhere near Nashville which actually got me excited that someone 20 minutes away from me was growing palms but now I'm kinda Disappointed lol. Anyway those are amazing plants! 

Edit: there are people growing palms 20 minutes away from me but non of these people are on these forums. 

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JLM

I think you mean Hendersonville, i use to live in Lafayette, Gallatin, and Hendersonville. Did not know of many palms that existed in that area, a good eye opener for sure! I did know of some nice and tall trachies at The Streets of Indian Lake in Hendersonville, but they have since removed those palms for a renovation. That is really all i knew of though in that area. I had lived near Vol State in Gallatin for a year, then moved out near 386 at the Station Camp exit. 

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Mr.SamuraiSword
34 minutes ago, Tennessee Palms said:

Alright before people get confused, he's Referring to Hendersonville Tennessee not Henderson, Henderson is nowhere near Nashville which actually got me excited that someone 20 minutes away from me was growing palms but now I'm kinda Disappointed lol. Anyway those are amazing plants! 

Edit: there are people growing palms 20 minutes away from me but non of these people are on these forums. 

Sorry all, still new to the area, lol.  Yeah it was Hendersonville.. Shame i cant edit it now

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JLM
1 hour ago, Mr.SamuraiSword said:

Sorry all, still new to the area, lol.  Yeah it was Hendersonville.. Shame i cant edit it now

Completely understand! I was the same way when i moved down here, couldnt pronounce half of the city/town names correctly. In your situation its better because it's not 110% wrong lol

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Palmaceae

Great pictures of some nice looking palms! Just moved to TN and starting my palm collection.

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Collectorpalms

Where these pictures from this spring, and if so how cold was the February Freeze for that city? Is it the city near Jackson, TN.

only ask cause they still look better than anything out of zone 8 in Texas.

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Allen
55 minutes ago, Collectorpalms said:

Where these pictures from this spring, and if so how cold was the February Freeze for that city? Is it the city near Jackson, TN.

only ask cause they still look better than anything out of zone 8 in Texas.

This is basically down the road from me.  8F-10F this year, 18F last year and 16F the year before that.  Zone 7a.  Just barely outside Nashville.  We had a lot of ice but no real damage.  Those pics all look current this spring

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Will Simpson

Some nice looking palms there , and especially some of those Trachys .

Will

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Mr.SamuraiSword
On 4/1/2021 at 9:32 AM, Collectorpalms said:

Where these pictures from this spring, and if so how cold was the February Freeze for that city? Is it the city near Jackson, TN.

only ask cause they still look better than anything out of zone 8 in Texas.

Yes, Hendersonville TN, got the town name wrong.  20 minutes north of Nashville near the old Hickory Lake

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Fusca
22 minutes ago, Mr.SamuraiSword said:

Yes, Hendersonville TN, got the town name wrong.  20 minutes north of Nashville near the old Hickory Lake

Just make sure you pronounce it "Hendersonvl" and "Nashvl".  Also if you travel east, Maryville = "Murvl".  :P

On 3/31/2021 at 7:37 PM, JLM said:

I was the same way when i moved down here, couldnt pronounce half of the city/town names correctly.

 

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3 hours ago, Fusca said:

Just make sure you pronounce it "Hendersonvl" and "Nashvl".  Also if you travel east, Maryville = "Murvl".  :P

 

YES!

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teddytn

What do the experts have to say about that palmetto being in the ground for 15 years? With no winter damage....just saw different thread where everyone was nervous to give the green light on a palmetto 30 miles south of Birmingham zone 8a. 

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