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Lets see your Spring planting


mydateplams

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Hi wanted to see what others are planting this spring.

Bismarckia nobilis - About 1500+ seeds

 

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Can you post a picture of a Robusta next to a Filifera single leaf seedling if there is any difference?

Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

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Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

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On 3/16/2021 at 3:24 PM, mydateplams said:

Phoenix roebelenii 500  Not started yet

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Those are the largest Phoenix roebelenii seeds I have ever seen!  Are you sure about that ID?

Unified Theory of Palm Seed Germination

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(Where: bh = bottom heat, fs = fresh seed, L = love, m = magic, p = patience, and t = time)

DISCLAIMER: Working theory; not yet peer reviewed.

"Fronds come and go; the spear is life!" - Anonymous Palmtalker

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2/1/2022 bulk germination attempt #3.  This is what I have cooking.

My biggest take away from last year is using 1gl pots.  1gl are great for bulk germination when its cool outside but once it starts to warm outside and in to the summer months keeping a 1gl moist is impossible. Using 3gl and up is the way to go and also less transplanting. 

The shade house is 25ftx50ft. I have another the same size I just need to set it up. 

Rough list more to come.

Medjool - 110 female  1ft-2ft trunk fruiting 10 years
Medjool - 400  1ft Leaf 3 years.
Zahidi - 30 1ft-2ft trunk 10 years
Cliff Date Palm (Phoenix rupicola) - 2 5in

Black Sphinx  - 40 2-5in

Barhi - 40 
Chamaedorea palms  - 60
Chilean wine palm (Jubaea chilensis) -100

Abbada

Cabbage Palm (Sabal palmetto)  - 100
Archontophoenix cunninghamiana - 100
Aloe Hercules - 100
Moringa tree - 60
Mexican Blue Palm - 100
Guadalupe Palm - 100
bismarckia Palm - 40

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On 3/16/2021 at 1:24 PM, mydateplams said:

Correction these are Chamaerops - Mediterranean dwarf palm

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I just saw the first germination in some Jubaea Chilensis I started recently . I have Brahea Armata, Brahea Edulis, +  Butia Odorata seeds on the heat pad but not germinated yet. 
 


 

 

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How long did it take for the Jubaea Chilensis ? I decided to not do the community pot or bag and used 3gl pots. I know its a lot of work this way.  I use a community 50gl drum cut in half for the Bismarck's and I have had good success.

I'm doing it in such a large scale I get 10 yards of compost and 10 yards of top soil and mix them for my growing media.

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I cracked some of the Jubaea seeds. There were double and triple endosperm in the seed I collected this year under a tree near the Mission Santa Barbara. The cracked seeds, bare endosperm took one month on heat pads daytime temperatures 85F and room temperature 65F at night. I cleaned the seed with hydrogen peroxide a couple times. 

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I collected most of my seeds in Santa Barbara around the court house and around the court house area. I went to lotus land Santa Barbara https://www.lotusland.org/ last spring and filled a backpack full of them.

I've had my seeds about half a month potted so I have some time to go.

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Jubaea seeds fall from Oct. till Dec.   Some trees have squirrels that forage on the palm seed and the seed doesn’t last long on the ground. 
I can think of seven trees that produce and are on public property in SB.  There are a few more trees on private property and the property owners might allow collecting if asked. 
 I am glad lotusland allowed you to harvest some seed. There are also lots of other palms that produce viable seed in our local parks. 
Brahea Armata ( Dec courthouse ) Brahea Edulis (March) Chamaedorea Elegans ( Dec  courthouse ) and truckloads of Queen palms but they are everywhere these days. Butia Odorata (Oct-Dec) planted on State street Valerio to Constance.

I haven’t seen a Jubaea that is short enough to get a ladder up to collect some pollen. Still looking. I just bought  a nice Tor Tor and a female Medjool from Sago Rey in Fresno . I plan on giving Maria a bucket of Jubaea seed next season. Maybe the best way for me to help get more Jubaea planted out is to help supply nurseries with fresh seed. Santa Barbara is a seed collectors dream. 

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How do you separate community pots, Makes me nervous that I might kill seedlings, do you dig in the soil? pour the whole thing out?

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I think having vermiculite ( or pumice ) mixed 50-50 with peat moss makes the potting mix light enough you can separate the roots. 
I usually wait till there is a nice healthy strap leaf.  
 

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When they are in community pots every week or so I will gently mix by hand and feel for any new growth.  Yes I have broken my share of the radicles doing this.  In the 50gal drums I have cut in half I probably have 500 seeds in each. 

Once I see growth I will pull them out and pot them.

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