Maltese coconut project 343 Report post Posted March 15, 2021 This is my personal experiment of germinating and growing Cocos nucifera in Malta and succeeding in most of them surviving in winter by positioning them in South facing sunny area 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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RedRabbit 2,022 Report post Posted March 15, 2021 Good luck with your experiment! The climate should be close to being able to support them. Do you know if any coconuts have been grown successfully in Malta before? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maltese coconut project 343 Report post Posted March 15, 2021 Just now, RedRabbit said: Good luck with your experiment! The climate should be close to being able to support them. Do you know if any coconuts have been grown successfully in Malta before? No no one succeeded. I am the first one on the island. And now our winter is soon finishing 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthSeaNate 132 Report post Posted March 16, 2021 Well done. Yes Coconuts here need to be grown against a south facing wall ideally & out of cold winds. There were a few in pots outside a cafe on the seafront in Bugibba that survived the winter a couple of years back, but because of their exposed position they looked very tatty & wind burnt. I had a close look at them & they did have firm green spears, but unfortunately the cafe owner got rid of them before they could recover. These were however the stretched, force grown ones that you buy at LIDL, to have the best chance at succeeding with them you need to grow one yourself, like you have done. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maltese coconut project 343 Report post Posted March 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, SouthSeaNate said: Well done. Yes Coconuts here need to be grown against a south facing wall ideally & out of cold winds. There were a few in pots outside a cafe on the seafront in Bugibba that survived the winter a couple of years back, but because of their exposed position they looked very tatty & wind burnt. I had a close look at them & they did have firm green spears, but unfortunately the cafe owner got rid of them before they could recover. These were however the stretched, force grown ones that you buy at LIDL, to have the best chance at succeeding with them you need to grow one yourself, like you have done. I wasn't aware of Cocos nucifera temporarily in Bugibba. But yes those grown in Dutch greenhouses are weak and show signs of Etoilation. One has to grow a quantity themselves, then use a Darwanian approach just like I did to see who survives winter 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maltese coconut project 343 Report post Posted May 5, 2021 Some update (photos taken 30th April 2021) 2 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maltese coconut project 343 Report post Posted June 4, 2021 Transferring coconut in North facing area for the warm months since sun temperatures were exceeding 31 degrees celcius. Now they receive early morning and late evening more delicate sun 4 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maltese coconut project 343 Report post Posted June 12, 2021 Experimenting with some Lidl purchased ready germinated husked coconuts along with my own germinated ones. Temperature is perfect nearing 29 degrees celcius in the shade 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maltese coconut project 343 Report post Posted July 11, 2021 A recent update of the Maltese coconut project 5 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PalmatierMeg 7,422 Report post Posted July 11, 2021 Great work! Kudos to you and your project. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maltese coconut project 343 Report post Posted July 11, 2021 Thanks my friend. I will post updates from time to time and anyone can ask for hints 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kinzyjr 5,618 Report post Posted July 11, 2021 @Maltese coconut project You've definitely put in the effort to make it work! Hope you can get them to the point where a few are actively reproducing there! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maltese coconut project 343 Report post Posted July 11, 2021 I will try my best. Will keep all updated 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aleitalyyy 73 Report post Posted July 13, 2021 I had not seen that you had opened a discussion of yours ... perfect I follow this and we keep up to date here! what minimum temperatures have these plants seen? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aleitalyyy 73 Report post Posted July 13, 2021 ciao cara ecco il mio cocco ligure che ormai da un mese e mezzo si gode l'estate all'aperto...cosa mi consigliate come fertilizzante liquido? usi liquido o granulare 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maltese coconut project 343 Report post Posted July 13, 2021 Thanks for the three big thick ones minimum around 10 degrees celcius at night and some occasional 14 degrees celcius during cloudy January day 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maltese coconut project 343 Report post Posted July 13, 2021 Io usero tutti I due. Pero il liquido soltanto 1/5 potenza e diluito pero ogni 5 giorni. Diluito ma frequente. Usero anche micronutrients aparte NPK 22 12 12 usero. I micronutrients consiste Boron, Magnesium, Manganese, Copper, Zinc, Iron, Molybdenum e altre 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aleitalyyy 73 Report post Posted July 14, 2021 yes I also took a liquid with a lot of nitrogen and micro elements ... I gave the granular nitroposka I don't know if it exists in mortar, it is blue or red ... now I have put a young coconut in a concrete pot together with a basjoo banana that will stay out this winter .... in alassio rental! it will be a little experiment to understand how long a young coconut lasts in our winter ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aleitalyyy 73 Report post Posted July 14, 2021 @Stelios hello dear friend stelios I have tagged you in this tread thinking you might be interested in these experiments ... since you too have a European Mediterranean coconut ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maltese coconut project 343 Report post Posted July 14, 2021 I use Midotech gold (slow release red granules ) and the Dutch agrial blue granules (slow release too) reason being that combined they have most important micronutrients 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maltese coconut project 343 Report post Posted July 14, 2021 Then in the warm months I use fast release 22 12 12 NPK mineral soluble and Agrilon microcombi for micronutrients. I prefer a dilute 1/5 every 5 days instead. Frequent but dilute 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maltese coconut project 343 Report post Posted July 14, 2021 How can we get more people into this discussion? Possibly people who live in borderline climates? Thanks everyone 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pietropuccio 479 Report post Posted July 14, 2021 Cocos nucifera and temperatures To be taken as a single testimony, I have not documented the previous ones, with all its uncertainties and inaccuracies and without wanting to draw conclusions. “Supermarket” plant in an open position in Palermo, Sicily, Italy. First panoramic photo, from left to right: photo 1) November 8, in vegetation, average of the minimum of the previous week: 13.6 ° C photo 2) November 28, growth stops, shiny leaves, some rare spots, average of the previous week's lows: 12.8 ° C photo 3) December 5th, shiny leaves, widespread spots, average of the previous week's lows: 12.9 ° C Second panoramic photo, from left to right: photo 1) December 12, opaque, discolored leaves, shriveled apexes, average of the previous week's lows: 11.2 ° C photo 2) December 30, lamina entirely wrinkled, average of the previous week's lows: 10.9 ° C photo 3) January 8, no comments required, average of the previous week's lows: 11.1 ° C 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aleitalyyy 73 Report post Posted July 14, 2021 Ciao pietro ... sì purtroppo penso che. A palermo mancano le temperature massime che ha malta... Poi le piante del progetto maltese sono sicuramente più abituate e forti... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aleitalyyy 73 Report post Posted July 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Maltese coconut project said: Come possiamo coinvolgere più persone in questa discussione? Forse persone che vivono in climi limite? Grazie a tutti we tag more people. ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maltese coconut project 343 Report post Posted July 15, 2021 Come e la temperatura massima al sole in palerm nel inverno? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stelios 509 Report post Posted July 15, 2021 9 hours ago, Aleitalyyy said: @Stelios hello dear friend stelios I have tagged you in this tread thinking you might be interested in these experiments ... since you too have a European Mediterranean coconut ... Hi Alessandro. Generally here in the Mediterranean sea is very difficult to grow a coconut. The best chances are Tel Aviv and more south maybe Cairo in Egypt. Here in Cyprus or other similar areas maybe in the best microclimate it could survive but might not look its best. My palm after about 12 years (9 in the ground) only the last 3 winters doesn't get any protection and now in the summer is recovering from leaf damage. The last winter was not very rainy but it still has damage from the previous 2 rainy winters. Is very slow growing here. Maybe I should fertilize sometimes. I don't know until when it will survive but when it will die I might try a green tall variety when I will find one, to see if it has a bit more hardiness. Even though I love coconut palms like many of us here, I would prefer to put my efforts in more easy growing palms. I don't underestimate any palm and I already feel lucky that I can grow many varieties like royals, bismarckias, kentiopsis, archontophoenix and others. Unfortunately there is not a very big variety at the nurseries here in Cyprus. For the coconut look there is also beccariophoenix alfredii but like other varieties, I have to grow it from seeds since is not available here. Kentia is one of my favorite palm with some cocos look. Here is my palm today. 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aleitalyyy 73 Report post Posted July 15, 2021 8 hours ago, Maltese coconut project said: Come e la temperatura massima al sole a palerm nel inverno? Non superano in gennaio i 15 gradi... ma ci sono giorni che arrivano anche a 20/21 ma raramente... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pietropuccio 479 Report post Posted July 15, 2021 9 hours ago, Maltese coconut project said: Come e la temperatura massima al sole in palerm nel inverno? Hello, the day and night temperature of a place also strongly depends on the surrounding conditions. In your terrace, the temperature is maximum at the corner and decreases towards the sides and will always be much higher than any unprotected point in a garden even a short distance away. The survival of the coconut does not depend on the maximum temperatures, but on the minimums that are reached in the meristem, as its temperature decreases, the reproduction speed of the cells also decreases and consequently the probability of pathogenic attacks increases. Around 11 °C the reproduction of cells stops and this is the beginning of the end. Ultimately it is quite simple to predict whether a coconut can survive or not, unless you encounter a genetically modified one. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maltese coconut project 343 Report post Posted July 15, 2021 Palms are heavy feeders. Fertilising really helps them. In summer I am using fast acting fertiliser.. I dilute it only at 1/5 strength but apply it once every 5 days in the warm months. For the cooler months I only use slow release fertiliser then Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maltese coconut project 343 Report post Posted July 15, 2021 How big is your coconut palm? What is the height? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maltese coconut project 343 Report post Posted July 15, 2021 I wish to ask one more thing. What is your most common humidity level and monthly night time temperature? Do you live in the inner part of Cyprus or fairly near coastal areas? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maltese coconut project 343 Report post Posted July 15, 2021 Very true. They like narrower ranges in temperature between day and night and surely dislike any temperatures in the one digit degrees celcius. But also depends on the size of the palm. Smaller seedlings are weaker. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aleitalyyy 73 Report post Posted July 15, 2021 16 hours ago, Maltese coconut project said: Hello @Stelios... yes you are right there are many beautiful varieties for coastal Mediterranean climates ... but you know coconut is an exceptional palm for me, the queen of palms, with the challenge of making it grow where it shouldn't grow .. . I am growing the beccariophoenix alfredii, but it is really slow to grow .... here is a photo ... your coconut however is always beautiful and I hope it continues to grow for years ... and yes, you should fertilize that palm that sure changes its appearance for the better .... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites