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This triple header was sold as a macrozamia of some sort
Does anyone know which sort it might be?

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Richard

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57 minutes ago, GDLWyverex said:

This triple header was sold as a macrozamia of some sort
Does anyone know which sort it might be?

Richard, it doesn't look much like a Macrozamia to me.  It looks like there may be a few spines on the base of the petiole in your photo of the caudex, but there isn't enough of the petiole exposed to really tell.  I would suspect it is a Zamia looking at the leaflets.

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33.0782 North -117.305 West  at 72 feet elevation

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19 minutes ago, Tracy said:

Richard, it doesn't look much like a Macrozamia to me.  It looks like there may be a few spines on the base of the petiole in your photo of the caudex, but there isn't enough of the petiole exposed to really tell.  I would suspect it is a Zamia looking at the leaflets.

Each leaf stalk has one and only one tiny spine which is almost impossible to see but can be felt.

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Which zamia has small teeth on the leaf borders?

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Richard

 

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3 minutes ago, GeneAZ said:

Either ceratozamia or zamia, I think.

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I agree, it could be something like a Z. Furfuracea "long skinny leaf type" + Integrifolia hybrid.  Integrifolia usually has smooth stems, but the leaves aren't right for that species.  Furfuracea has small teeth on the leaf edges, and the "long leaf" type has leaves that look similar.

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42 minutes ago, Merlyn said:

I agree, it could be something like a Z. Furfuracea "long skinny leaf type" + Integrifolia hybrid.  Integrifolia usually has smooth stems, but the leaves aren't right for that species.  Furfuracea has small teeth on the leaf edges, and the "long leaf" type has leaves that look similar.

Seems like this same topic came up 2 years ago

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiN4KSR4JLvAhUQWq0KHZbbC4UQFjANegQIBhAD&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.palmtalk.org%2Fforum%2Findex.php%3F%2Ftopic%2F62034-zamia-furfuracea-hybrid-or-something-else%2F&usg=AOvVaw02aUhvXMdMMWAOCXReouQo

 

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Yes indeed!  Mine appear to be very thorny stems, which is a bit different than yours.  Loddigesii is sometimes thornless or nearly thornless on the stems, and Integrifola/Pumila/etc are smooth stems.  I still don't know what mine are, but they are slightly less frost hardy than a regular Furfuracea.

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Zamia loddigesii in the first photo, Zamia integrifolia in second and Zamia furfuracea in the third photo.  No special forms, just the typical forms of all three and none are hybrids.

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