Palmageddon Aftermath Photo Thread

[Meangreen94z]

57 minutes ago, Collectorpalms said:

I have seen them like in Memorial To River Oaks area. I just don’t recall them leaning unless they had big trees nearby. 
One old complex on Westheimer had them as well about same age. 7979 Westheimer. 

Yeah, from what I’ve seen Butia seem to detect there’s an object blocking light at certain angles/times of the day and grow away from it. Not always the case but I’ve seen it. 

[DreaminAboutPalms]

Wow these butias looked absolutely fantastic before the freeze (2019), and they’ll get back  in a year or two. This picture is every reason to use them in landscaping more often  

 

Edited February 14, 2022 by DreaminAboutPalms

[Xenon]

49 minutes ago, DreaminAboutPalms said:

Wow these butias looked absolutely fantastic before the freeze (2019), and they’ll get back  in a year or two. This picture is every reason to use them in landscaping more often  

They were never damaged much (if at all) by the freeze, just over-pruned as usual 

[Xenon]

Seems at least one Houston freeway Livistona decora is clinging on to life in 2022 

[Collectorpalms]

13 hours ago, Meangreen94z said:

Yeah, from what I’ve seen Butia seem to detect there’s an object blocking light at certain angles/times of the day and grow away from it. Not always the case but I’ve seen it. 

After researching, Evidently Butia Yatay in Habit do this.

[Collectorpalms]

The more I stare at those Butia, they make me wonder if they could even slightly be Butia Yatay, a very rare and unlikely case. But they actually do not look like common butias. Id be looking at seeds if I ever get past there, just to cure my curiosity.

 

Edited February 14, 2022 by Collectorpalms

[DreaminAboutPalms]

Driving on I-35 this morning and just south of Temple was surprised to see one of the tall washies off the highway came back. This pic was taken from google maps earlier in year but it looks better now and hardly any burn after last week 

[DreaminAboutPalms]

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Edited February 14, 2022 by DreaminAboutPalms

[DreaminAboutPalms]

In Dallas today

[DreaminAboutPalms]

can’t see second one but two alive Washingtonia hybrids at hooters in Dallas. Look flawless considering last weeks cold 

[joetx]

Bad pic, but spotted this giant Filifera in Round Rock. 

[knikfar]

Did someone post a spreadsheet showing which palms survived and which didn't? I thought I saw one but I can't find it now. 

[DreaminAboutPalms]

For those in Dallas area... check out this address. This guy had about a dozen mature filiferas before freeze last year and about half survived it looked like when I drove by including one that is two stories tall. 

[DreaminAboutPalms]

Check out the quality inn and suites south Waco. 3 pure Filiferas that are two stories tall and look flawless. Great spot to collect seed from due to easy access

Quality Inn & Suites

2410 S New Rd
Waco, TX  76711
United States

[kinzyjr]

3 hours ago, knikfar said:

Did someone post a spreadsheet showing which palms survived and which didn't? I thought I saw one but I can't find it now. 

This might be what you are referring to: https://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/61358-0000-cold-hardiness-observation-master-data/

[DreaminAboutPalms]

Temple TX Washingtonia off i35

[Collectorpalms]

19 hours ago, DreaminAboutPalms said:

For those in Dallas area... check out this address. This guy had about a dozen mature filiferas before freeze last year and about half survived it looked like when I drove by including one that is two stories tall. 

I am most impressed by survivors in peoples yard. I have discounted surviving palms at commercial properties that were protected by the wind, and snow melt from pavement. On my street there is a regular looking washingtonia with very little Filifera in it that survived due to perfect location, ( southwest up against apartments) while 4 others in the wind died. Meanwhile My Filifera died.

so here is that yard from awhile back: not the best view, but lucky guy.

Hope they don’t mind the invasion of privacy thanks to google maps. You posted address. Not my fault. 

 

Edited February 17, 2022 by Collectorpalms

[Collectorpalms]

On 2/17/2022 at 11:55 AM, Collectorpalms said:

I am most impressed by survivors in peoples yard. I have discounted surviving palms at commercial properties that were protected by the wind, and snow melt from pavement. On my street there is a regular looking washingtonia with very little Filifera in it that survived due to perfect location, ( southwest up against apartments) while 4 others in the wind died. Meanwhile My Filifera died.

so here is that yard from awhile back: not the best view, but lucky guy.

Hope they don’t mind the invasion of privacy thanks to google maps. You posted address. Not my fault. 

 

Take 2. 
 

[Collectorpalms]

Some Austin Survivors, south of Downtown. Some 80s survivors.

 

[DreaminAboutPalms]

Garland Tx survivor trachies

[DreaminAboutPalms]

Plano Tx - 20 miles north of Dallas

Here are 5 Sabal Mexicana at Jollibee, the two against southern facing wall look like nothing happened and have produced a ton of seeds and on the east side of building not protected from north winds, two died and one looks like it took awhile to come back.

It seems DFW is the northern limit for being able to just plant them wherever, any farther north they need to face south to be bulletproof. 

Last pic is a volunteer growing in a parking lot a few blocks away. I think they will be everywhere here in a few decades 

Edited February 20, 2022 by DreaminAboutPalms

[DreaminAboutPalms]

Not a survivor but spotted this absolute monster trunk of a Filifera in North Plano. Might have been an 80’s survivor 

[Xenon]

Exposed CIDP in Bryan, TX not looking so great...low was 20-21F (?)

More sheltered

[Little Tex]

On 11/8/2021 at 10:00 AM, Mr.SamuraiSword said:

What a survivor. I saw that too, in that FB group.  Certainly very impressive.  ironically that would make two survivors in McAllen. A much smaller one on iNaturalist, covered while the owners unprotected Dypsis Decaryi apparently died, and his Phoenix Roebelenii clump had a trunk collapse.  

https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/78090587

I don't remember where but there is a coco in Edinburgh Texas, probably newly planted , First Coco I've ever seen in person

[joetx]

Big Robusta looking Washy in Austin

[Collectorpalms]

1 hour ago, Xenon said:

Exposed CIDP in Bryan, TX not looking so great...low was 20-21F (?)

More sheltered

I planted both of those. The smaller one was protected during the big freeze. It was actually at another house that was leveled and moved.  The house had a nice big butia and you can see in the most protected spot of house and it’s dead. 
The wind and ice did a number on the taller canary fronds this past February. 

Edited March 2, 2022 by Collectorpalms

[DreaminAboutPalms]

4 hours ago, joetx said:

Big Robusta looking Washy in Austin

Found on google maps the pic of how it looked in January. Good stuff 

[Xenon]

More College Station/Bryan CIDP

[NBTX11]

Today I was able to spend about an hour in downtown San Antonio. By downtown, I mean inside the I-37, I-35, and Hwy 90 Loop. This is what I am reporting. There is virtually no, I repeat no Washingtonia death immediately downtown. Unless all have been removed, I saw 5 or less dead trunks in all of downtown. Granted, it’s possible that the city or private property owners removed some. However, it does appear that the Feb 21 freeze had little effect on Riverwalk, and immediate downtown Washingtonias, including thin hybrids. It virtually appears as it did prior to freeze. Let me stress that this is immediately downtown. Other areas of SA had a much greater percentage of Washingtonia killed, particularly thin ones. Most Filifera lived through out the city., including suburbs. 

[DreaminAboutPalms]

North Allen TX Washingtonia hybrid. Palmaggaeddon survivor. A rare sight in this part of Texas these days. Has gone below 25 about a dozen times this winter here, including a low of 16-17 degrees on two occasions 

[DreaminAboutPalms]

Allen, TX Sabal palmettos. Every single one died…. Sabal Mexicana in the area however look great for the most part 

[Mr.SamuraiSword]

On 3/3/2022 at 12:37 PM, Xenon said:

More College Station/Bryan CIDP

 

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Man, some of those look naturalized... Good recoveries, and is that pygmy date shooting up some green?

[Collectorpalms]

18 hours ago, Mr.SamuraiSword said:

Man, some of those look naturalized... Good recoveries, and is that pygmy date shooting up some green?

It is a green Mediterranean. All those Canaries are right along the main drag of highway 6 in Bryan/College Station within a mile or so of the "relative" warmest areas of the town. All saw between 4 and 7F. Though larger ones made it outside of the main strip.

[Collectorpalms]

22 hours ago, DreaminAboutPalms said:

Allen, TX Sabal palmettos. Every single one died…. Sabal Mexicana in the area however look great for the most part 

Wait Sabal Palmetto Died in Urban sprawl zone 8a? That should be sobering for everyone zone pushing even in zone 8. Granted they were only planted in 2015 at about the same size as they were at the time of the freeze, and not as hardy in my opinion as ones grown from non trunking size. A lot of the Sabal Palmetto grown from a small size can pass for Sabal Mexicana at first glance in Texas, they just get more girth. I like to look for seeds to verify.

Edited March 8, 2022 by Collectorpalms

[DreaminAboutPalms]

1 hour ago, Collectorpalms said:

Wait Sabal Palmetto Died in Urban sprawl zone 8a? That should be sobering for everyone zone pushing even in zone 8. Granted they were only planted in 2015 at about the same size as they were at the time of the freeze, and not as hardy in my opinion as ones grown from non trunking size. A lot of the Sabal Palmetto grown from a small size can pass for Sabal Mexicana at first glance in Texas, they just get more girth. I like to look for seeds to verify.

After spending the past few weeks up here I’m not seeing many palmettos, just Mexicanas and even some of those are dead or close to it like this one I saw today. Pretty much just trachies and Sabal mexicana…. Have seen lots of dead palmetto trunks though. I think it’s safe to say palmettos aren’t bulletproof up here unless grown from seed and even then need to be shielded from north winds to look the best 

[Collectorpalms]

1 hour ago, Collectorpalms said:

It is a green Mediterranean. All those Canaries are right along the main drag of highway 6 in Bryan/College Station within a mile or so of the "relative" warmest areas of the town. All saw between 4 and 7F. Though larger ones made it outside of the main strip.

Sorry Texas Avenue, not Highway 6.

[Cade]

Pretty awesome to see massive Washingtonia in San Antonio

[NBTX11]

3 hours ago, Cade said:

Pretty awesome to see massive Washingtonia in San Antonio

Yeah that Riverwalk/Downtown microclimate really came through for us.  As soon as you leave downtown the death rate on thin Washingtonias go up significantly.

[knikfar]

15 hours ago, DreaminAboutPalms said:

After spending the past few weeks up here I’m not seeing many palmettos, just Mexicanas and even some of those are dead or close to it like this one I saw today. Pretty much just trachies and Sabal mexicana…. Have seen lots of dead palmetto trunks though. I think it’s safe to say palmettos aren’t bulletproof up here unless grown from seed and even then need to be shielded from north winds to look the best 

All sabals aren't created equal though. I think Sabal Birmingham or Sabal Bald Head Island would have recovered. The Birmingham may not have even been damaged. 

[WSimpson]

Some amazingly tall Washys looking good . 

I thought Sabal  palmettos were hardier than Sabal Mexicanas .