Palmageddon Aftermath Photo Thread

[Meangreen94z]

Filifera looking fine next to a dead Filibusta in Lago Vista, probably 3-4*F in that area.

[joetx]

1 hour ago, NBTX11 said:

New Braunfels, Texas. Dec 26, 2021. Sampling of Washingtonia Hybrids and Canary Dates. We lost a lot of super thin Robusta, but had almost complete recovery of Filifera and good hybrid recovery among the medium sized trunk kind. Canaries had good recovery percentages too. This is not everything, but just one small section of town. 

Amazing! Thanks for capturing these.

[Jtee]

4 hours ago, NBTX11 said:

New Braunfels, Texas. Dec 26, 2021. Sampling of Washingtonia Hybrids and Canary Dates. We lost a lot of super thin Robusta, but had almost complete recovery of Filifera and good hybrid recovery among the medium sized trunk kind. Canaries had good recovery percentages too. This is not everything, but just one small section of town. 

In what area is that 1st pic at with the tall date palms and black Chevy truck? 

[NBTX11]

3 minutes ago, Jtee said:

In what area is that 1st pic at with the tall date palms and black Chevy truck? 

On the East side of I35 between the Seguin St/FM 725 and the 46 exits.  Not far from the Guadalupe river turn around.  The next road after the Guadalupe river turn around if you are going north on access road.  All of the pictures I took were within a mile of FM 725. 

Edited December 27, 2021 by NBTX11

[DreaminAboutPalms]

 Flowering Filiferas in Austin

[amh]

The mature trachycarpus on my street that survived palmageddon21 below 0F was edited by the new owner.

Bummer.

[WSimpson]

On 12/26/2021 at 5:32 PM, Meangreen94z said:

Filifera looking fine next to a dead Filibusta in Lago Vista, probably 3-4*F in that area.

That worries me about my Filibusta that is heavy on the Robusta side . I can't protect it one of these years when it gets a lot taller than it is now . I wish it  had  more Filifera in it . 

Will

 

[DreaminAboutPalms]

I’ve posted this one before, but even after being in Cabo San Lucas, San Diego, and Phoenix this week this North Austin hybrid still amazes me with how healthy it looks. Completely neglected too gets no supplemental water or fertilizer

[DreaminAboutPalms]

37 minutes ago, Will Simpson said:

That worries me about my Filibusta that is heavy on the Robusta side . I can't protect it one of these years when it gets a lot taller than it is now . I wish it  had  more Filifera in it . 

Will

 

Strap a 2x4 or long rod to the trunk near the top and drape a blanket over the top of it. Maybe build a fire pit with a cover nearby that you could use to give off some extra heat 

Edited December 31, 2021 by DreaminAboutPalms

[amh]

On 12/26/2021 at 4:31 PM, NBTX11 said:

This roof is triggering me!

[Meangreen94z]

what a monster…..

[Xenon]

The freaky 12F Bismarckia survivor continues to hang on...

[joetx]

Amazing tall washy in my neighborhood in RR. 3F survivor!

Going to ask if I can grab some seeds next fall.

 

[Austinpalm]

2 hours ago, Xenon said:

The freaky 12F Bismarckia survivor continues to hang on...

Is that in Houston?

[Xenon]

1 hour ago, Austinpalm said:

Is that in Houston?

Katy Area, western suburb of Houston 

So even colder 

There were originally 5 of them planted together, but only one miracle 

[Austinpalm]

Very impressive.  There were a few bismarckia here on the island that had damage.  I was a bit surprised, but it was the characteristic 80f one day, 22f the next, and then not above 45f for a week.  So I guess it is understandable.

I went by my old place in Austin.  Lots of damage/decimation.  Looks like the P. sylvestris, J. chilensis, L. mariae, S. pumos, and W. robusta were all killed outright as well as a 10ft Araucaria angustifolia.  Surprisingly, the bismarckia that I have cut to the ground 3 times prior seems to have survived.  I think it was cut back again but not sure.  A P. reclinata x canariensis appears to have just scraped by with new growth returning from the very middle of the small cluster that had formed.  Was told that the Trachycarpus fortunei and P. acaulis in the backyard (could not see from the street) had survived as well. 

 

[Xenon]

1 hour ago, Austinpalm said:

Very impressive.  There were a few bismarckia here on the island that had damage.  I was a bit surprised, but it was the characteristic 80f one day, 22f the next, and then not above 45f for a week.  So I guess it is understandable.

I went by my old place in Austin.  Lots of damage/decimation.  Looks like the P. sylvestris, J. chilensis, L. mariae, S. pumos, and W. robusta were all killed outright as well as a 10ft Araucaria angustifolia.  Surprisingly, the bismarckia that I have cut to the ground 3 times prior seems to have survived.  I think it was cut back again but not sure.  A P. reclinata x canariensis appears to have just scraped by with new growth returning from the very middle of the small cluster that had formed.  Was told that the Trachycarpus fortunei and P. acaulis in the backyard (could not see from the street) had survived as well. 

 

Yes they seem to burn at temps a lot higher than kill temperature, the forms sold here start to burn out in the open 24-26F but have reliably survived 17-18F on several occasions when interspersed with milder winters. 

Is the Veitchia at SPI still alive? 

 

[Collectorpalms]

Sabal Uresana I planted in Austin about a decade ago. . 1/5/22

Dead.

 

Edited January 6, 2022 by Collectorpalms

[Austinpalm]

17 hours ago, Xenon said:

Is the Veitchia at SPI still alive? 

yes it is.

First pix is from early October.

Last pix is this morning.

[Xenon]

2 hours ago, Austinpalm said:

yes it is.

First pix is from early October.

Last pix is this morning.

 

Well I guess that counts as alive! Must be the most cold tender trunking palm survivor in TX? Unless there is a surviving Adonidia somewhere... 

[Cade]

Two queen palms that are alive , one looks pretty bad … the other one is coming back strong , both are located in Alvin TX zone 9B Alvin is located between Houston and Galveston incase you don’t have a idea lol.

[OC2Texaspalmlvr]

4 hours ago, Cade said:

Two queen palms that are alive , one looks pretty bad … the other one is coming back strong , both are located in Alvin TX zone 9B Alvin is located between Houston and Galveston incase you don’t have a idea lol.

Welcome to PT!!! Wonder if they got any protection ? The better looking one definitely helped being planted near the house. There is one queen in my neighborhood that survived in Santa Fe. Only other survivors I have found in the surrounding area was in Texas City. 

T J 

[Cade]

There was like 6 more around Alvin but people cut them down ….. there is also some small ones that are alive probably 12”/30” tall pretty cool they survived and the parent trees died above them lol 

[Xenon]

Miraculous 12F queen survivor continues to recover

[Cade]

I feel like silver queen is just a myth lol and some queens are just more healthy maybe?

[Joe The Palm]

Hello, yesterday I saw the two recovering Hutto filiferas, unfortunately one of them died. (Sorry for blurry pic)

However, last week I saw the filifera near Coupland and it continues to recover well 

[Joe The Palm]

I found a video form Rockport it was filmed on Christmas. I suggest putting it on 2x speed 

Christmas Day Drive - YouTube

[Xenon]

3 hours ago, Joe The Palm said:

I found a video form Rockport it was filmed on Christmas. I suggest putting it on 2x speed 

Christmas Day Drive - YouTube

Yikes that looks worse than southeast Houston. I drove US 77 along the outer edge of Corpus two weeks ago and it looked pretty bad too considering the latitude. Looked similar to in town Houston.

All along US 77 north of Sinton looked like a dead zone as well as Victoria and US 59 all the way until you reach the inner suburbs of Houston significantly to the northeast (bless the urban heat island). 

Robusta looks much better just a bit further south in Kingsville. Few deaths there and it generally looks like nothing happened. 

[DreaminAboutPalms]

1 hour ago, Xenon said:

Yikes that looks worse than southeast Houston. I drove US 77 along the outer edge of Corpus two weeks ago and it looked pretty bad too considering the latitude. Looked similar to in town Houston.

All along US 77 north of Sinton looked like a dead zone as well as Victoria and US 59 all the way until you reach the inner suburbs of Houston significantly to the northeast (bless the urban heat island). 

Robusta looks much better just a bit further south in Kingsville. Few deaths there and it generally looks like nothing happened. 

What would you estimate robusta survival percent to be in Corpus Christi?  

[Xerarch]

10 minutes ago, DreaminAboutPalms said:

What would you estimate robusta survival percent to be in Corpus Christi?  

I'd say 90% survival in and around town in Corpus, most here look like nothing ever happened, in fact, many of them have grown so full that the landscapers have already come and hacked them back to only a few fronds .  I'd also say it does seem to be worse north of here at all Portland/Rockport etc

[DreaminAboutPalms]

Just now, Xerarch said:

I'd say 90% survival in and around town in Corpus, most here look like nothing ever happened, in fact, many of them have grown so full that the landscapers have already come and hacked them back to only a few leaves 

I just watched that rockport drive video. Seems there is no real pattern to the deaths. Must have been just the weaker or unhealthy ones that died. Hopefully the gene pool is improved as a result. So many of them looked very healthy with full crowns. 

[Xerarch]

31 minutes ago, DreaminAboutPalms said:

I just watched that rockport drive video. Seems there is no real pattern to the deaths. Must have been just the weaker or unhealthy ones that died. Hopefully the gene pool is improved as a result. So many of them looked very healthy with full crowns. 

I haven’t been able to determine much of a pattern for here, there is a whole parking lot full of them with 100% mortality, now those look to have been recently planted. But for the most part, there are what appeared to have been healthy, vigorous specimens that didn’t come back. No noticeable difference for those handful that didn’t recover and those that did. 

[Joe The Palm]

It looks like this hotel on South Padre Island installed some coconuts that look like Malaysian dwarfs. I wonder how long they will last being right near the beach.

[Xenon]

1 hour ago, DreaminAboutPalms said:

What would you estimate robusta survival percent to be in Corpus Christi?  

Oh I didn't make it to the coast but as others have said, I'm sure it looks much much better there. I was referring to the outermost inland suburbs. 

[Xenon]

41 minutes ago, Joe The Palm said:

It looks like this hotel on South Padre Island installed some coconuts that look like Malaysian dwarfs. I wonder how long they will last being right near the beach.

30 years or next year. Take your pick. 

There were 20 year old Malayans before. Don't think the variety matters too much 

[Cade]

Hopefully they are still alive when I go stay down there for the summer lol 

[Xenon]

3 hours ago, DreaminAboutPalms said:

I just watched that rockport drive video. Seems there is no real pattern to the deaths. Must have been just the weaker or unhealthy ones that died. Hopefully the gene pool is improved as a result. So many of them looked very healthy with full crowns. 

Most of the palms in the video have that outwardly "mutt" look which confers much more cold hardiness. The occasional shots of the groupings of dead telephone poles (robusta) are more telling of the severity of the cold impact. 

[Xenon]

2 hours ago, Joe The Palm said:

 

Ugh those palms are in pots...WHY WHY WHYYYY. They already look like thirsty stunted palms. 

There were two large fruiting coconuts just up the street. What a waste of potential. 

[richtrav]

(sigh) Johnny, how many times have we gone through this, you can’t grow coconuts in Texas!

 

[Collectorpalms]

11 hours ago, Joe The Palm said:

I found a video form Rockport it was filmed on Christmas. I suggest putting it on 2x speed 

Christmas Day Drive - YouTube

Woah, a Queen Palm, then a washy washy sabal sabal med washy washy. Exception a few nice CIDP.  Since I live here, I can say it. Texas Coastal cities are SO uninspiring. Boring. Constant fear of Hurricanes and floods, very few plants thrive along the Texas coastal towns. In over 20 years, I have spent the night in Galveston, Corpus, RGV exactly once each. The humidity isnt worth the extra 5-10F in winter. Only place worse for plants is probably my soil and city water. Galveston was much more lush prior to Hurricane Ike that killed off most of the plants from salt water. Now it looks no different than that video. And 2018 and 2021 Killed off all the zone 9b palms, except right in the lower RGV.

Edited January 11, 2022 by Collectorpalms