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Collectorpalms
9 minutes ago, Xenon said:

Yes massive die off in Katy Area. Half or more of the robusta and chinensis that initially pushed are now dead. Nearly all of the Phoenix dactyfilera are dead despite initially throwing several leaves. 

Two 20 year old chinensis in the yard initially pushed. One is looking great and has several full sized leaves and the other rolled over 2 months ago and had tons of trunk bleeding. 

What gives? Did drier parts of the state have the same issue? 

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Collectorpalms
On 11/3/2021 at 9:38 PM, Xenon said:

Update on west side and heading into town. Survival rate inside the black circle is halved while east of the blue line towards town remains about the same. The area in between is transitional. 

It almost feels like an entire USDA zone jump within 10 miles heading into town on I-10 imo.  610 around Uptown and Bellaire looks amazing and the heat island warmth is most apparent past 610 to about halfway to BW8. Many of the robusta in this area (the very skinny, lime green, super weepy tropical looking ones) are nearing a full recovery and look much better than some of the stragglers out west toward Katy Area. 

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There wasn’t a drastic temperature difference between East and west along interstate ten. Did the city simply have more building, less wind. So more wind protection. More pavement melted snow faster etc… I followed the weather and it was only about a 2 degree difference.

I saw more dead palms along the beach area in Galveston then just inland. 

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Xenon
2 hours ago, Collectorpalms said:

There wasn’t a drastic temperature difference between East and west along interstate ten. Did the city simply have more building, less wind. So more wind protection. More pavement melted snow faster etc… I followed the weather and it was only about a 2 degree difference.

I saw more dead palms along the beach area in Galveston then just inland. 

Probably concrete and duration. The reservoir/park areas that separate Katy from BW8 look very dead. 

Or the extra 2 degrees really helped. There is a big difference on the ground survival wise in areas that hit 14-15F vs 11-12F. 

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Collectorpalms
58 minutes ago, Xenon said:

Probably concrete and duration. The reservoir/park areas that separate Katy from BW8 look very dead. 

Or the extra 2 degrees really helped. There is a big difference on the ground survival wise in areas that hit 14-15F vs 11-12F. 

Seeing dead Washingtonia and True Dates along the beach homes in both Galveston and Corpus I think Wind was  a factor as it was only around 20F. All my Washingtonia survived 14.5F in 2018, so that helps. I just saw a video out of Corpus say they were replacing over 100, maybe 180?  palms that did not survive along Ocean drive at the cost of 150,000. They were showing them replacing them with Sabal Mexicana.

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Xenon
15 minutes ago, Collectorpalms said:

Seeing dead Washingtonia and True Dates along the beach homes in both Galveston and Corpus I think Wind was  a factor as it was only around 20F. All my Washingtonia survived 14.5F in 2018, so that helps. I just saw a video out of Corpus say they were replacing over 100, maybe 180?  palms that did not survive along Ocean drive at the cost of 150,000. They were showing them replacing them with Sabal Mexicana.

A lot of palms directly on the coast or barrier islands are never that healthy to begin with (salinity, drought stress from sandy soils, etc) so that's probably another contributing factor 

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Arecaceae78743

A very new picture from Port Isabel TX. (not mine) 

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Xenon
12 minutes ago, Arecaceae78743 said:

A very new picture from Port Isabel TX. (not mine) 

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You can find a lot more on recent real estate listings. If you just have to know :) (guilty) 

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Xerarch
23 hours ago, Collectorpalms said:

Seeing dead Washingtonia and True Dates along the beach homes in both Galveston and Corpus I think Wind was  a factor as it was only around 20F. All my Washingtonia survived 14.5F in 2018, so that helps. I just saw a video out of Corpus say they were replacing over 100, maybe 180?  palms that did not survive along Ocean drive at the cost of 150,000. They were showing them replacing them with Sabal Mexicana.

Most of the Washingtonia along ocean drive survived, but yes some died and they are being replaced with S mexicana.  I really wish the locals would be a little more creative with their palm planting species, but I can't complain about the choice of the native Sabal mexicana.  They look great and they're invincible here.  Most everything in the Phoenix genus has fully recovered save for Pygmy date, event the P sylvestris are looking great, most of those survived.

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Xenon

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ShadowNight030

I visited some family in Fulshear back in June. I was shocked by how many butia completely fried in their neighborhood. We were around the 12 degree mark, and our butias looked fine. 

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Mr.SamuraiSword
On 11/6/2021 at 4:05 PM, Xenon said:

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What a survivor. I saw that too, in that FB group.  Certainly very impressive.  ironically that would make two survivors in McAllen. A much smaller one on iNaturalist, covered while the owners unprotected Dypsis Decaryi apparently died, and his Phoenix Roebelenii clump had a trunk collapse.  

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Jtee

Some pics in New Braunfels today11/09

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DreaminAboutPalms

Sorry for the blurry pics but The tallest Robusta hybrid at Gold’s gym off research blvd in Austin is working hard to come back to life. Hopefully a cold winter doesn’t kill it off because I’m pretty sure this is the tallest palm tree in a 5 mile radius 

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Arecaceae78743

A picture I took today from Taylor TX. It looks like this CIDP has made a full recovery despite being out in the open. 

 

 

 

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Mr.SamuraiSword
On 11/9/2021 at 2:48 PM, Jtee said:

 

Great recoveries for a low of 7!  Noteworthy are the robusta surrounded by buildings that survived while the exposed ones faired worse.  Variations in some of the Filifera noticeable in the ones in front of the denim company building.  Sylvester was quite the surprise.  Surprised the Sabals look mostly untouched while filifera are a mixed bag of damage despite being so far west in TX.  

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palmsOrl
On 11/6/2021 at 4:05 PM, Xenon said:

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I'm impressed.  Looks like a Nikau palm.

-Michael

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DreaminAboutPalms

FEB 2021 PIC - Tarrytown Terrace Apartments 2300 Enfield Drive, Austin. 

Couldn't get a pic as I was driving past and was so shocked to see that the two tallest Washingtonias had survived here. These are pretty robusta-ish for the area. There may have been another survivor that is barely pushing green but I honestly saw so many survivors in the area that I can't completely remember. 

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Meangreen94z

Kerrville, Texas 

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Arecaceae78743

Amazingly,  9 months after the big freeze this Washington filifera literally just this week pushed up green ! This was near Coupland TX on November 22

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Collectorpalms
7 hours ago, Arecaceae78743 said:

Amazingly,  9 months after the big freeze this Washington filifera literally just this week pushed up green ! This was near Coupland TX on November 22

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 I hope it pulls through. Its not very far from the Washy's I posted an update on with the one that came back and then puttered out.

I had a washy and a livistonia come back probably 6 months after the freeze. The livistonia had several leaves, and then just died now. The washy only had stunted fronds and it browned out too.

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DreaminAboutPalms

North Austin - two of three Robusta hybrids me back, tallest died unfortunately.

Seems like washie hybrids over 25 feet have a much higher survival rate. washie hybrids with 10-15 ft of trunk didn't xomw back at all hardly here 

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DreaminAboutPalms
On 11/24/2021 at 6:39 AM, Collectorpalms said:

 

 I hope it pulls through. Its not very far from the Washy's I posted an update on with the one that came back and then puttered out.

I had a washy and a livistonia come back probably 6 months after the freeze. The livistonia had several leaves, and then just died now. The washy only had stunted fronds and it browned out too.

That is what happened with all the dactyliferas in Austin. They all started coming back this spring but really they were just pushing out whatever was left in trunk and weren't able to produce new fronds and then died 

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