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Palmageddon Aftermath Photo Thread

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No photos but almost all of the med fan palms are surviving in San Antonio

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2 hours ago, PricklyPearSATC said:

No photos but almost all of the med fan palms are surviving in San Antonio

Great news.

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NBTX11 Grand Master

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9 hours ago, PricklyPearSATC said:

No photos but almost all of the med fan palms are surviving in San Antonio

They are almost all surviving in New Braunfels also. 

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The botanical gardens of Taco Cabana are recovering too. 

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9 hours ago, Xenon said:

Filibusta in College Station pushing

 

It is interesting that they have what looks like a pure Filfera, a few Filabusta leaning filifera, and Less hardy mutts. There were at least 2 more nice Hybrids close to the building that hadn’t done anything. But that one further away unprotected from wind survived. Maybe the snow had melted around it because of the parking lot. 
Either way that’s one is lucky!

That petticoat of leaves was a major plus too.

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Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

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6 hours ago, Teegurr said:

P. canariensis looking GREAT! 

 

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Nice and Healthy green fronds, unlike those sickly ones in CA, lol that are “always yellow” at the base.

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Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

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Can someone tell me why Home Depot is selling Windmills (good), majesty’s, Pygmy dates, and queens. No hardy selection and people are going to be duped. At least Lowe’s had med fans, CIDP, Filifera, butia, and an assortment of good hardy palms. 
 

Stop duping people into buying non hardy palms for the area Home Depot. 

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26 minutes ago, NBTX11 said:

Can someone tell me why Home Depot is selling Windmills (good), majesty’s, Pygmy dates, and queens. No hardy selection and people are going to be duped. At least Lowe’s had med fans, CIDP, Filifera, butia, and an assortment of good hardy palms. 
 

Stop duping people into buying non hardy palms for the area Home Depot. 

They really don't care or research their products.  They put "tropical" label on it, so it covers their marketing. 

I have found big box stores don't have very good inventories of anything anymore.    The overwhelming majority of their products are now annuals.  They have a few hardy shrubs and perennials, but very limited selections.  (I think they might have boxwoods, indian hawthornes and maybe moutain laurels).  Lowes only carries fruit trees now, they no longer appear to carry shade trees.  Inventory has really gone downhill at big box stores....

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34 minutes ago, NBTX11 said:

Can someone tell me why Home Depot is selling Windmills (good), majesty’s, Pygmy dates, and queens. No hardy selection and people are going to be duped. At least Lowe’s had med fans, CIDP, Filifera, butia, and an assortment of good hardy palms. 
 

Stop duping people into buying non hardy palms for the area Home Depot. 

The decision is made by the corporate offices, Texas may be lumped in with Florida since they are both gulf states. HEB is not as bad, but the independent, stand alone nurseries are best.

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Then why does Lowe’s get it. Lowe’s has ALL hardy palms in their palm selection. Not even any queen palms. Home Depot had like 50 pygmy dates for sale. Along with a bunch of majesty palms and queen palms and like 5 windmills. That was literally their palm selection yesterday. 

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I personally prefer the selection that Lowe's has over Home Depot.  Our Lowe's has more tropical palms since we are so much farther south.  Our Lowe's has bottles, Foxtails, pygmy dates, queens, bismarckia and of course the very common majesty palm.  Home depot here only has queens, pygmy date and majesty palms.

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Meanwhile Houston Garden is really pushing sea grape and Clusia this year as if it were Miami Beach :lol:

Some of these look like they're doing something...trying to flower (?)

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this one deserves a shrine?

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Our local Home Depots are also selling Sea Grapes.  I just don't remember seeing them before. 


Apparently, it's one of the latest food fads.....
Do they taste better than Kale?

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24 minutes ago, PricklyPearSATC said:

Our local Home Depots are also selling Sea Grapes.  I just don't remember seeing them before. 


Apparently, it's one of the latest food fads.....
Do they taste better than Kale?

You can eat sea grapes?  I didn't know that.  I might buy one just to taste it.

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22 minutes ago, Reyes Vargas said:

You can eat sea grapes?  I didn't know that.  I might buy one just to taste it.

Supposed to have some sweetness, but not very tasty.

If they're not too expensive; it wouldn't be a bad investment.

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San Antonio palm update, sorry no pictures, I was driving down the road at 70 MPH.  I had to drive from Universal City to Blanco Rd about a mile south of Loop 410, south of the airport.  Palms are recovering everywhere.  I was totally surprised at the amount of Robusta recovering.  Somewhere around 25-30% or so are recovering.  I saw a row of tall, thin Robusta somewhere around Wurzbach, maybe 8 to 10 palms and every last one of them was recovering and pushing green.  Saw other random Robusta pushing green all over.  A lot dead, but a lot more alive than I thought there would be.  Every other palm was either recovered, recovering, or not damaged.  I was unable to see if the Phoenix Dactys by the North Star mall were recovering yet.  They haven't trimmed them back yet, so it's hard to tell.  I haven't been downtown yet to see what is going on there, but based on what I saw, I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of Robusta recovering there.    

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San Antonio palm update, sorry no pictures, I was driving down the road at 70 MPH.  I had to drive from Universal City to Blanco Rd about a mile south of Loop 410, south of the airport.  Palms are recovering everywhere.  I was totally surprised at the amount of Robusta recovering.  Somewhere around 25-30% or so are recovering.  I saw a row of tall, thin Robusta somewhere around Wurzbach, maybe 8 to 10 palms and every last one of them was recovering and pushing green.  Saw other random Robusta pushing green all over.  A lot dead, but a lot more alive than I thought there would be.  Every other palm was either recovered, recovering, or not damaged.  I was unable to see if the Phoenix Dactys by the North Star mall were recovering yet.  They haven't trimmed them back yet, so it's hard to tell.    

Are these in areas that were roughly at or above 9*?

I am interested I finding Filifera that survived at and below zero,

Robusta or Hybrids that survived below 5*

Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

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3 minutes ago, Collectorpalms said:

Are these in areas that were roughly at or above 9*?

I am interested I finding Filifera that survived at and below zero,

Robusta or Hybrids that survived below 5*

Yes, I would say they dropped to around 10ish. The airport dropped to 9, and this was all within say 5-7 miles of airport or so.

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1 hour ago, Reyes Vargas said:

You can eat sea grapes?  I didn't know that.  I might buy one just to taste it.

Apparently a seaweed that also has the common name sea grapes is the newest health fad, but not the shrub that grows on beaches.  :mrlooney:

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On 4/22/2021 at 4:50 PM, Xenon said:

Filibusta in College Station pushing

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If anyone were to see me cooing and cheering at the screen and grinning from ear to ear just to see a couple of green fronds unfurling from a tatterdemalion crown, they would think I was nuts!  But it's so joyful.  Life, in all its tenacity, is pretty awesome.

 

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The one near the Torchy's  in College Station is coming back too. No movement on the Robusta next to it (not pictured) 

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Today’s New Braunfels palm recoveries. No sense posting Filifera, because they essentially all recovered. This is a thin trunked Washingtonia  

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On 4/22/2021 at 4:50 PM, Xenon said:

Filibusta in College Station pushing

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This is new, last I checked within two weeks ago it wasn’t green.

Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

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12 hours ago, Swolte said:

The one near the Torchy's  in College Station is coming back too. No movement on the Robusta next to it (not pictured) 

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This is the one that had a Filifera look to it. Glad to see it’s alive. Still only 1 Robusta leaning Alive in BCS.

Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

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I pulled one my five 15’ trunk Livistona Chinensis that looked the worst, and it was confirmed dead, but in the meantime thought I would plant several others, as I have two strong survivors that are pushing green. I got a little carried away and added quite a few more (I personally think they are very under appreciated if you want a slender trunk tropical-looking palm that is reasonably cold hardy) rather than just replacing. 

I also added several sabals and filifera after seeing how quickly they have started pushing green after the freeze in Central Texas. 
 

Overall, 28 new palms went in, and one confirmed dead came out, with two Livistona Chinensis survival TBD. If they don’t make it, I’ll deal with it later, but I couldn’t pull them without giving them a few more months.  
 

I had been waiting for an excuse to add palm to the front of the house, so I added quite a few there as well. 
 

I’m sure the neighbors think I’m crazy considering the crane and all, but they’ve been very complimentary so far!

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I was at Mercer yesterday but didn't take any photos because I was sure someone had posted on it already, but now that I'm looking for it I cant find it.  Has anyone documented the trees there since the freeze?  I was surprised at how well everything was recovering.  I even saw some green on the Attalea.

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9 of 10 Sabal Palmetto dead at Hayatte plaza after -2F. See seed I collected.

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Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

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I was at my son's house in Rosenberg this weekend.  They were hit just has hard as San Antonio!  Their Indian Hawthornes are frozen.  My son's bottlebrush is fried with no new growth.  Wax Myrtles froze back.   The motel we stayed at had 3 Washington Palms, which appear to be robustas.  It was warmer in Rosenberg than San Antonio during the February freeze.   Their low was 12.4F versus San Antonio's of 9..their freezing temps of were of shorter duration and their average daily temperature was higher than San Antonio's. 
I am going by a personal weather station located in Rosenberg because their closest NWS site is Hobby, which has a much warmer microclimate than Rosenberg. 
palms and cycads in Rosenberg pretty much look like the ones in San Antonio.  Rosenberg isn't exactly known for exotic gardens and we didn't drive around town much, but there were enough Washingtonias around to give us a general idea.  

Date palms in San Antonio and Rosenberg seem to be returning.  A true date at Pappadeaux's at I10 and 1604 in San Antonio is growing.

I did not see any Queen Palms, dead or alive in Rosenberg.  I also did not see an butia over there, but I'm sure they are planted there. 


Indian Hawthorns at Rosenberg.  Looked like this all over town and also in Sealy. 
 

 

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Washingtonia looked like this around town and in Sealy

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Rosenberg and Sealy = COLD COLD COLD

Huge difference as you drive east and enter Katy and Sugar Land. 

Rosenberg and Sealy were functionally 8b even before this event. No pre-2010 queen palms. 

If you're still in Rosenberg, definitely check out Caldwell Nursery. They have (had?) a lot of exotics including a few Bismarckia out front. Enchanted Gardens is nearby in Richmond. 

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 Silver Queen palm survived!

Syagrus Romanzoffiana variety Litoralis

(Syagrus Litoralis)

That's a new historic cold hardy record for such a palm thought incapable of surviving even a brief freeze!

https://youtu.be/yXQPTwKMTa0

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Waco area was zapped after -2. Sagos and several Sabal Palmetto dead. Saw several dead Trachycarpus Fortunia closer to Austin.

Texas Rex Yucca Fried too.

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Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

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