Palmageddon Aftermath Photo Thread

[NBTX11]

17 minutes ago, Teegurr said:

I think this is new growth on a canariensis! Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

Definitely new growth. That palm will likely make it. 

[PricklyPearSATC]

2 hours ago, Fusca said:

Here we are two weeks later.  Looks like some progress with the mule!  Hope it keeps it up...  unfortunately the Copernicia has not moved.

 

Wow!!! Drastic!!

I would have thought it was a goner, but what do I know?  Amazing! 

Gotta really know what you're doing

[Collectorpalms]

6 hours ago, Teegurr said:

I think this is new growth on a canariensis! Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

Where is this Canary located? Do you have more pictures that show the whole tree? 

[oliver]

Right to left, Brahea armada, Copernicia fallaensis, take a guess. The mystery palm and Brahea didn't flinch

Edited March 16, 2021 by oliver

[oliver]

Another palm native to Northern Mexico across the border from Texas. Can you guess?

Edited March 16, 2021 by oliver

[Teegurr]

20 minutes ago, oliver said:

Another palm native to Northern Mexico across the border from Texas. Can you guess?

Sabal uresana?

[Teegurr]

1 hour ago, Collectorpalms said:

Where is this Canary located? Do you have more pictures that show the whole tree? 

It's behind a brick wall in someone's backyard, so unfortunately I don't. It's on the corner of Lawyer and Shadowwood. 

If you want to check on them, there are also a couple canaries on Edelweiss just north a few hundred feet of Rock Prairie road.

First pic is the two canaries on Edelweiss.

Second is the canary on Lawyer.

 

Edited March 16, 2021 by Teegurr

[Silas_Sancona]

1 hour ago, oliver said:

Another palm native to Northern Mexico across the border from Texas. Can you guess?

Brahea.. Which one tho..  Maybe berlandieri or dulcis?  Beauty regardless.

[oliver]

It's hard to see, but it's clumping. Does that help?

[Silas_Sancona]

3 minutes ago, oliver said:

It's hard to see, but it's clumping. Does that help?

B. decumbens?

[oliver]

Yep! Here's 2 more, all of them in my north facing front yard, unprotected

[ahosey01]

2 hours ago, oliver said:

Right to left, Brahea armada, Copernicia fallaensis, take a guess. The mystery palm and Brahea didn't flinch

Looks like Nannorrhops.

[oliver]

Correct. Didn't get 1 bit phased. 

[TexasColdHardyPalms]

As I've posted in years past, Brahea armata are clearly more resilient than anyone gives them credit for.  It looks like all butia (except one purpurescens) and jubaea are dead. -3 killed them all. One wrapped yatay mule and one jxs appear that theyll make it but my larger hybrids look terminal. Another shocker is that I think my butia x parajubaea sunkha that was completely unprotected will live as well. 

[Swolte]

2 minutes ago, TexasColdHardyPalms said:

Another shocker is that I think my butia x parajubaea sunkha that was completely unprotected will live as well. 

Wth, was it protected from wind. I have found this to be a big factor. 

[TexasColdHardyPalms]

Nope it's out in the open. My large guihaia is looking sad. Most of the leaves are growing out  now. Strongest palms were sabal brazoria/minor, needles, brahea decumbens and moorei,, trithrinax campestris & schizzy and the smaller silver mountain mazaris that we have

[TexasColdHardyPalms]

Ohh and trachycarpus nanus. That's a stud too. 

[TexasColdHardyPalms]

This is what a lot of lost money looks like if anyone is curious. One of about a dozen houses.  About 3000 encephalartos dead. 

[PricklyPearSATC]

1 hour ago, TexasColdHardyPalms said:

This is what a lot of lost money looks like if anyone is curious. One of about a dozen houses.  About 3000 encephalartos dead. 

Oh that it so sad

[AnTonY]

A good piece from Texas Monthly about the recently opened Botanical Garden in Houston, and what they had to deal with concerning the Arctic event. I'm sure many a palm-grower here on this site can resonate with the sentiment of this article. I'm truly hoping for a wonderfully wet summer in the Houston area to help speed growth and recovery for the plants - same for growers in the rest of Texas as well.
https://www.texasmonthly.com/being-texan/houston-botanic-garden-freeze/

Edited March 17, 2021 by AnTonY

[NBTX11]

Trimmed brown fronds off my smaller Filifera. What damage. This is a tough palm. 

[necturus]

11 hours ago, AnTonY said:

A good piece from Texas Monthly about the recently opened Botanical Garden in Houston, and what they had to deal with concerning the Arctic event. I'm sure many a palm-grower here on this site can resonate with the sentiment of this article. I'm truly hoping for a wonderfully wet summer in the Houston area to help speed growth and recovery for the plants - same for growers in the rest of Texas as well.
https://www.texasmonthly.com/being-texan/houston-botanic-garden-freeze/

A wet summer sounds great, but I'm worried about all the rain and humidity this spring. I don't think it's helping with crown rot. @TexasColdHardyPalms has talked about how Butia recovered poorly in LA after a bad freeze and a wet spring.

[necturus]

14 hours ago, TexasColdHardyPalms said:

Nope it's out in the open. My large guihaia is looking sad. Most of the leaves are growing out  now. Strongest palms were sabal brazoria/minor, needles, brahea decumbens and moorei,, trithrinax campestris & schizzy and the smaller silver mountain mazaris that we have

Hard to believe but impressive. I dug up a lot of Butia hybrids and am finding that the BxPJS did the best. The BxPJTVT and BxPJC are so-so. My worst looking transplant is my JxS  

[AnTonY]

17 minutes ago, necturus said:

A wet summer sounds great, but I'm worried about all the rain and humidity this spring. I don't think it's helping with crown rot. @TexasColdHardyPalms has talked about how Butia recovered poorly in LA after a bad freeze and a wet spring.

What year was this in question regarding that event in LA? Crown rot is a factor I've been watching out for, but many of the sources I've read about the phenomenon state that the vectors responsible are mostly active if the wetter, humid weather is also accompanied by cooler temperatures, say drizzly misty weather around 50-60°F.

The rain so far in Houston since the freeze has mostly been associated with temps around 70F and above. The individual storm systems have also had decent spacing so far, some rain days followed by ample sunny days - rather than being a total washout like in 2015. The problem is how low pressure weather systems keep lingering out West, and how they keep finding a pocket around the Desert Southwest region - the circulations that result bring sustained, humid moisture into the place this time of year, whereas things would be much drier if the weather systems just stayed north and moved east from there.

[Fusca]

1 hour ago, necturus said:

A wet summer sounds great, but I'm worried about all the rain and humidity this spring. I don't think it's helping with crown rot. @TexasColdHardyPalms has talked about how Butia recovered poorly in LA after a bad freeze and a wet spring.

He and I had this conversation last month.  Devastation for some LA (not Los Angeles or Lower Alabama) growers.  Not just Butia but also hybrids including Butia.  One of the reasons I went ahead and did the early surgery on my mule.  So far so good as to keeping it dry and it seems to be responding, but even assuming it does recover it will need a few mild or at least "normal" consecutive winters going forward.

31 minutes ago, AnTonY said:

What year was this in question regarding that event in LA?

I believe it was January 2018.  Good point regarding cool rain vs warm rain.

[Collectorpalms]

College Station Hilton.

These guys have been pruned two weeks.

Looking dead to me are a windmill, 2 clumps of Mediterranean, and a volunteer Sabal with a foot of trunk, (spear pulled).

Canary seemed to be only thing that could withstand a week below freezing and 5F, ... even next to a hotel with southern exposure. 
I am only as the bird flies a mile south of these.

there Were Sabals near the pool that survived the 80s. 

Edited March 18, 2021 by Collectorpalms

[NBTX11]

CIDP are ridiculously hardy.  This one will recover fine.  The fronds can't handle below 20, but the palm can handle really low temperatures and recover.

 

[PricklyPearSATC]

Whoa, what happened to the trachycarpus?

[Collectorpalms]

55 minutes ago, PricklyPearSATC said:

Whoa, what happened to the trachycarpus?

It was that bad in my neighborhood. I seem to be only person seeing dead Sabals too. Even I thought all my Filifera were going to be fine. Now it looks like only 4 of 8 are.

Trachycapus would have eventually died anyhow. 

Edited March 18, 2021 by Collectorpalms

[Collectorpalms]

1 hour ago, NBTX11 said:

CIDP are ridiculously hardy.  This one will recover fine.  The fronds can't handle below 20, but the palm can handle really low temperatures and recover.

 

It’s why I planted two of them. 25 years old But It’s going to be iffy! I lost one with ice before. The airport had 1 inch of ice, everything just crumbled under weight. I have 1 frond still sticking up.

Edited March 18, 2021 by Collectorpalms

[PricklyPearSATC]

4 minutes ago, Collectorpalms said:

It’s why I planted two of them. 25 years old But It’s going to be iffy! I lost one with ice before. The airport had 1 inch of ice, everything just crumbled under weight. I have 1 frond still sticking up.

Yikes...did not know CS had all that ice! 

[Collectorpalms]

13 minutes ago, PricklyPearSATC said:

Yikes...did not know CS had all that ice! 

Two days of freezing drizzle, then the 1800s front came through, there was thunder sleet, then the power went out, then it snowed on top of the ice, then it only hit 20 for a high, ( I might have not even got that high for more than a few minutes...) sky cleared out and dropped to 5. ( 4F for me) The next day the ice came, there was 1 inch of freezing precipitation That just weighed down the snow, not all of it stuck, a lot ran off, but still horrible, then the next front came, no thaw and then another night of 20.

it lasted 7 days. Today a 20ft pine tree got uprooted in wind, so it’s dead too.

Wretched!

Plant Graveyard! 

I did learn that bay breeze Indian hawthorn is much hardier than the white that died. The pink bay breeze looks fine. I think it’s leaves look Weird, But if it can take all that I am going for some of those.

Edited March 18, 2021 by Collectorpalms

[Collectorpalms]

Here is the before photos from around the Holidays. that volunteer Sabal is dead, it had 1 ft of clear trunk, I pulled it’s spear out tonight in horror checking it. look how good it’s microclimate was. Right against glass and a tall building facing south. Blasted!

Edited March 18, 2021 by Collectorpalms

[strongbad635]

At the property where I work, we had the landscapers come out and trimmed our 25-yr-old, 30-ft robustas today.  All 3 had intact spears and new growth already emerging.  Tremendous relief.  These are in the Westchase District of Houston, which probably saw an absolute low of 13-14f.

Edited March 18, 2021 by strongbad635

[strongbad635]

This robusta is at the apartment community where I live, in the Houston Heights.  Absolute minimum was 15f.  Spear intact, new growth very vigorous.

[Collectorpalms]

Sabal Brazoria... some burn on newest and oldest leaves and 
various “ Burntias “
 

Edited March 18, 2021 by Collectorpalms

[PricklyPearSATC]

2 hours ago, Collectorpalms said:

Sabal Brazoria... some burn on newest and oldest leaves and 
various “ Burntias “
 

 

I thought my Brazoria was unscathed, but I have some damage to my oldest fronds. Same with my trachycarpus.  

[Collectorpalms]

12 hours ago, strongbad635 said:

At the property where I work, we had the landscapers come out and trimmed our 25-yr-old, 30-ft robustas today.  All 3 had intact spears and new growth already emerging.  Tremendous relief.  These are in the Westchase District of Houston, which probably saw an absolute low of 13-14f.

I had hoped since all mine had lived through 14.5F before they would make it in Houston. Spring/The Woodlands probably we’re the mortality begins, where it was around 10F. In Bryan, even very large Filifera are not pushing new growth. 

Edited March 19, 2021 by Collectorpalms

[MesquiteRetreat]

Has anyone in the Rio Grande Valley seen any green spears emerging on their Foxtails or Royals yet?

[oliver]

All my big  Royal's showing green new growth