Jump to content
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT LOGGING IN ×
  • WELCOME GUEST

    It looks as if you are viewing PalmTalk as an unregistered Guest.

    Please consider registering so as to take better advantage of our vast knowledge base and friendly community.  By registering you will gain access to many features - among them are our powerful Search feature, the ability to Private Message other Users, and be able to post and/or answer questions from all over the world. It is completely free, no “catches,” and you will have complete control over how you wish to use this site.

    PalmTalk is sponsored by the International Palm Society. - an organization dedicated to learning everything about and enjoying palm trees (and their companion plants) while conserving endangered palm species and habitat worldwide. Please take the time to know us all better and register.

    guest Renda04.jpg

Palmageddon Aftermath Photo Thread


ahosey01

Recommended Posts

3 hours ago, Collectorpalms said:

Washington Filifera 9b? What intersection suburb town is this? They are just not as reliable in a humid wet environment after they have been through an extreme event. I experienced this first hand. Some made it, middle single digits but then declined the following spring/summer. Surprised any died outright from the cold in 9b, the combo of rain humidity soil type and moderate winter damage has to be to blame.

Friendswood 

40A06970-D09E-4B49-B770-ECDBB70EF5A0.png

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Two live Washingtonias in Carrollton off Rosemead parkway and bishop bill drive. House on the other hand died in a fire 

3499165C-AB35-4FBA-9A17-1CC83D9A90C7.jpeg

8A38C674-8F06-4DBA-8B65-188EE8BA9456.jpeg

Edited by DreaminAboutPalms
  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 hours ago, DreaminAboutPalms said:

Two live Washingtonias in Carrollton off Rosemead parkway and bishop bill drive. House on the other hand died in a fire 

3499165C-AB35-4FBA-9A17-1CC83D9A90C7.jpeg

8A38C674-8F06-4DBA-8B65-188EE8BA9456.jpeg

Burn house to heat palms is a new one! 

Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

April 15, 2022. Fililfera Zone 8b SE Texas 

Looked they they were going to live, but the right one died now middle one is looking dead over a year later. Can’t say it’s dead yet 
 

They were very nice filifera…

1A4471E3-AD48-4109-A070-672DE7E63029.jpeg

Edited by Collectorpalms
  • Upvote 1

Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, DreaminAboutPalms said:

AMLI campion trail Irving Texas. 
 

pic 1: before freeze

pic 2: fall 2021

005C82BC-0AFD-4A8E-9BBB-F935D9BD7476.jpeg

1DF315FD-2C8D-4D3B-BCEB-13630B9D7240.jpeg

They probably protected these like those sabals and pindos up at that casino in Durant Oklahoma 

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, Jtee said:

They probably protected these like those sabals and pindos up at that casino in Durant Oklahoma 

I’m sure being in an enclosed area helped a lot. With how much of a heat island effect there is in area I feel like Filifera should be pretty bulletproof in an enclosed area with protection from north winds

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

The Boat restaurant north austin. These 3 have been hanging on for dear life and I was worried they wouldn’t make it through the winter. These receive no protection from north winds. Now that temps are in the 80’s everyday hopefully they have a crown again by the 4th of july

5B3D475A-4DED-4964-9A8F-507EC7B18AAD.jpeg

355B411E-CD9A-4854-BD83-ED25D6C6D7DB.jpeg

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

One of best looking Filiferas in Austin. This one has been around since 1966. Located off Steck Ave/Burnett Rd

725083C5-3435-4602-B43E-879F1109F346.jpeg

4BDBF0D3-B654-4552-97F4-459797AA4AF1.jpeg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Live dactyliferas in austin. These look like they survived the 2021 blast because the volunteers under them are too big to be from ones that were from replacements. Got a little fried this year but still lots of green 

1602BAFF-FBF2-4E07-943A-CC826E81AF32.jpeg

CAEB960E-55E0-4431-B894-49D705F82BA9.jpeg

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Here’s some more I didnt get a chance to take a pic of while driving, recently updated google streetview. Too many palms to capture. Significant difference between close to downtown and out. As soon as you get out of downtown you start to see chamaerops not coming back from main trunks and way more Washingtonia kill off. Sabal Mexicanas look absolutely flawless

E67A01A3-392B-42A2-B1BC-006A7C168CB8.png

C6A579D1-BA69-4EEE-89F7-93C5B6CAE268.png

8737427E-C5A3-413F-A432-0E2A73EDA369.png

46FC375B-FFEF-40E5-925E-8084B029236D.png

E2CD34DE-4BD1-4B4D-9AEB-A8D6B1704DF6.png

EACA23B2-4FC3-4DBB-A1EC-263612E2F675.png

FB08C350-3AF1-4374-AE85-F74DFF185DFD.png

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 4/4/2022 at 11:28 PM, amh said:

There is a surviving robusta at the car wash near the intersection of Blanco and Huebner.

Palm was cut down this week.:(

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

20 hours ago, amh said:

Palm was cut down this week.:(

I’ve seen a lot of people cut down Robusta that were recovering and had smaller crowns with less than normal fronds. Some really thin ones. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, NBTX11 said:

I’ve seen a lot of people cut down Robusta that were recovering and had smaller crowns with less than normal fronds. Some really thin ones. 

The palm was actively growing, but likely had some damage from this last winter. It survived 2021, so they cut it down after teens and a little freezing rain?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

My seedling grown jubea chilensis that came through Dallas 2021 low of 3F with a tarp. I defoliated it previously
My shoe is size 12 for scale. 

54981436-1AEE-4F25-98F0-57633FD48CF9.jpeg

  • Like 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, TonyDFW said:

My seedling grown jubea chilensis that came through Dallas 2021 low of 3F with a tarp. I defoliated it previously
My shoe is size 12 for scale. 

That Jubaea is a beast at what size did you put it in the ground ? I just potted mine up and im gonna wait a few more years before it goes into the ground. 

T J 

T J 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 4/23/2022 at 5:04 PM, TonyDFW said:

W. Filifera vs S. Mexicana in Dallas after 2021

800EA9F6-2361-4C44-BEA6-97890C1950B1.jpeg

Literally sums it all up in one picture here in DFW as to what you should be planting and focusing on...  Don't fight it people.  This is beautiful!

 

 

  • Like 3

Subscribe to my YouTube here  to follow along my Sabal obsession....  Quite possibly one of the biggest Sabal plantings in the US.

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/sabalking.texas

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, tlow said:

 

I was in NE and E Dallas County, last week and mid/late March. I didn’t see a single live palm pre-Feb 2021. I wasn’t in a residential area however. I saw newly planted ones. I did see a single dead Sabal trunk. At the Dallas Arboretum, more inner urban Dallas there is a Single Filifera left and a larger Sabal ( TX?) alive. Smaller Sabals died too. A few Trachycarpus alive but even some of those are dead and one almost dead. Trachy Wagy I think was gone.

I think no matter what you plant it could be killed by another event. Don’t put all your eggs into one basket. Even I lost needle palm main trunks. 

816B6BDF-8AED-45C2-8CCF-1BAFE62E4F7C.jpeg

EA8AB6BC-725C-41DB-AEAD-57F250E46FA0.jpeg

3C9610E4-286D-492D-9529-AFDACF029E2C.jpeg

72BB95BA-C4D4-4212-B88F-3E27588FDF39.jpeg

46CECB4E-72B7-49FC-A76E-B8CC59064072.jpeg

Edited by Collectorpalms
  • Like 2

Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

In case anyone wonders what Corpus Christi looks like post 2021 freeze. Corpus got down to 17 officially, although that was probably at the airport well inland, so maybe 20 at the coast?  Scroll ahead several minutes to see palms. The entire 1 hour video is basically palm trees. 
 

https://youtu.be/5Zmei435HVM

Edited by NBTX11
  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yes!! The drive through Corpus to Padre Island on 37 is still amazingly palmy too! Ocean drive is killer also. I'm one of the rare people who love the Texas coast :) 

Edited by joetx
  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

13 minutes ago, NBTX11 said:

In case anyone wonders what Corpus Christi looks like post 2021 freeze. Corpus got down to 17 officially, although that was probably at the airport well inland, so maybe 20 at the coast?  Scroll ahead several minutes to see palms. The entire 1 hour video is basically palm trees. 
 

https://youtu.be/5Zmei435HVM

8C5FD4FF-FD5F-4737-A1BF-AE9F8CCF1FFC.thumb.png.53a238c7f2e561bc803f98fe82231db4.pngtons of sabal Mexicanas the overall palm survival looks as good as Galveston. 

9A0FC87A-FD7C-4B5D-8EFC-F88790C36C96.png

2D3625BE-A6C2-457F-AFCC-2CD9E0DBB3CE.png

C8C8CF78-6422-40AC-99CA-96B562F7C8C9.png

D666D4B0-5F11-419E-94C3-888F814F473C.png

700C9651-C1EF-4445-835D-054699DE2FCC.png

Link to comment
Share on other sites

24 minutes ago, Cade said:

tons of sabal Mexicanas the overall palm survival looks as good as Galveston. 

 

Sabal genus didn't even notice there was a freeze here, 0% damage. Large majority of Phoenix and Washingtonia genus came back, Livistona all doing great.  A few queens and bismarcks came back.  Overall still very very palmy around and average person wouldn't notice a difference from before.  I'm still lamenting the loss of everything more tender than a queen, there were actually quite a few large royals/foxtails etc. before, but re-plantings already underway.

Corpus Christi, TX, near salt water, zone 9b/10a! Except when it isn't and everything gets nuked.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 1 month later...

34119559-6179-4C34-BF5E-6411FC8CBA4A.thumb.png.cfcbd5ac6f423029570d48057954bfae.pngHere is where this random Bismarck survivor is located, it’s not looking great but nonetheless it’s alive 

73EB7E6C-52F5-47DF-A694-3687C59083D9.png

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I just spent a week in Galveston and it was sad to see Moody Gardens without its Norfolk pines. I haven’t been since 2016. I was surprised to not see any larger queens, mostly newer plantings on the island. I did see small foxtails and pygmy dates dotted around, too. I missed any royal palms, but believe there are some survivors, right?  

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just now, ShadowNight030 said:

I just spent a week in Galveston and it was sad to see Moody Gardens without its Norfolk pines. I haven’t been since 2016. I was surprised to not see any larger queens, mostly newer plantings on the island. I did see small foxtails and pygmy dates dotted around, too. I missed any royal palms, but believe there are some survivors, right?  

All the royal palms are long gone 

the queen palms are basically gone with a lucky survivor here and there.. 

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Found a survivor behind Shogun. What kind of Sabal is this? It's behind a sushi/hibachi restaurant facing west. 

IMG_20220701_124300.jpg

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

13 minutes ago, JohnAndSancho said:

Found a survivor behind Shogun. What kind of Sabal is this? It's behind a sushi/hibachi restaurant facing west. 

IMG_20220701_124300.jpg

Sabal palmetto 

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

17 minutes ago, Cade said:

Sabal palmetto 

I'm pretty sure it only survived due to it's proximity to the outstanding Volcano rolls and Bento boxes served here. 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Update on the freak surviving  Queen palm 
This particular tree experienced a low of 14 degrees back in February of 2021(Zone9B) Alvin TX  -Suburbs of Houston 

1CE6F84A-24CD-4C5E-8851-6B772CF1BD50.jpeg

2CAB4EDD-9159-45CF-BEB9-3B4F92558F61.jpeg

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

28 minutes ago, Cade said:

Update on the freak surviving  Queen palm 
This particular tree experienced a low of 14 degrees back in February of 2021(Zone9B) Alvin TX  -Suburbs of Houston 

There is one that survived in northeast Houston, Fall Creek, South of Humble

  • Like 1
  • Upvote 1

Lucas

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now



  • Recently Browsing

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...