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Guy from Switzerland that importated a huge Jubea for his home in the alps


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Hey, I remember a few years ago i red and saw photos of a guy obtaining a fullgrown Jubea and planting it in his home in switerland with big mountains around. I think it was from a blog perhaps, anyone remember?

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21 hours ago, Palmfarmer said:

Hey, I remember a few years ago i red and saw photos of a guy obtaining a fullgrown Jubea and planting it in his home in switerland with big mountains around. I think it was from a blog perhaps, anyone remember?

There are two large ones outside Ticino (where there are many centenarian specimens) that I know of and they are close to Lake Léman (or Lake Geneva in English), the largest body of water in Switzerland and one of the largest lakes in Europe. Thus, the climate is comparatively mild. Even though you can see them, this is by no means "in the alps". Unfortunately, I don't have a photo.

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4 hours ago, Flow said:

There are two large ones outside Ticino (where there are many centenarian specimens) that I know of and they are close to Lake Léman (or Lake Geneva in English), the largest body of water in Switzerland and one of the largest lakes in Europe. Thus, the climate is comparatively mild. Even though you can see them, this is by no means "in the alps". Unfortunately, I don't have a photo.

I just remember he had a Tyrolean house, it was probably not in the alps itself, but you could see huge mountains in the background. As i Remember it he went to chile found the tree he wanted and imported it.

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I don't agree with what he's doing. He is taking a endangered tree, and grabbing it all the way to Switzerland. 

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Nothing to say here. 

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WOW! here is climate info: I found another source for weather there and it was much colder, so I do not think it was accurate for the location of Jubaea palms. 

hideClimate data for Locarno/Monti (367 m a.s.l., Reference period 1981–2010)
Month Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Year
Average high °C (°F) 6.8
(44.2)
8.7
(47.7)
13.5
(56.3)
16.5
(61.7)
20.5
(68.9)
24.4
(75.9)
27.1
(80.8)
26.3
(79.3)
21.7
(71.1)
16.4
(61.5)
10.7
(51.3)
7.3
(45.1)
16.7
(62.1)
Daily mean °C (°F) 3.4
(38.1)
4.7
(40.5)
8.8
(47.8)
11.8
(53.2)
15.8
(60.4)
19.4
(66.9)
21.9
(71.4)
21.2
(70.2)
17.2
(63.0)
12.6
(54.7)
7.4
(45.3)
4.1
(39.4)
12.4
(54.3)
Average low °C (°F) 0.8
(33.4)
1.6
(34.9)
4.9
(40.8)
7.8
(46.0)
11.9
(53.4)
15.2
(59.4)
17.5
(63.5)
17.1
(62.8)
13.7
(56.7)
9.7
(49.5)
4.8
(40.6)
1.6
(34.9)
8.9
(48.0)
Average precipitation mm (inches) 71
(2.8)
59
(2.3)
96
(3.8)
186
(7.3)
221
(8.7)
198
(7.8)
178
(7.0)
210
(8.3)
236
(9.3)
190
(7.5)
162
(6.4)
90
(3.5)
1,897
(74.7)
Average snowfall cm (inches) 18.6
(7.3)
9.1
(3.6)
1.9
(0.7)
0.6
(0.2)
0.0
(0.0)
0.0
(0.0)
0.0
(0.0)
0.0
(0.0)
0.0
(0.0)
0.0
(0.0)
2.2
(0.9)
14.6
(5.7)
47.0
(18.5)
Average precipitation days (≥ 1.0 mm) 4.9 4.5 5.9 10.1 12.4 10.2 8.5 9.9 8.9 9.2 8.3 6.5 99.3
Average snowy days (≥ 1.0 cm) 2.1 1.8 0.6 0.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.6 2.2 7.4
Average relative humidity (%) 65 61 55 60 66 64 62 66 70 75 70 67 65
Mean monthly sunshine hours 135 149 196 184 192 229 259 245 194 151 118 119 2,171
Percent possible sunshine 61 60 59 49 47 57 63 62 56 52 52 57 56
Source: MeteoSwiss[12]
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Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

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On 1/29/2021 at 6:12 AM, lzorrito said:

Hi, I dont know about Switzerland, but I do know about this one in Sweden, last year:

http://www.palmsociety.org.uk/forum/topic.asp?boardid=1&show=128&page=7&topicid=12985

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Same Jubaea 

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Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

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Even Brahea Armata look good. These are all on the lake edge. 
 

And a younger Jubaea, Trachy, and Sago.
 

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Someone had a neat idea of planting med fans under Trachycarpus so they look like clumping Trachycarpus to most people. 
 

 

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Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

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The region around Lago Maggiore is by far the mildest place in Switzerland and milder than some areas further south. It is sheltered from cold arctic winds by the alps. 

Here are some more pics:

Trachy forest in a hotel garden in Lugano

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This Washingtonia and the Phoenix were almost completely defoliated in 2012 but they grew back. Butias and Jubaeas were unharmed.

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Parajubaea in BrissagoPXL_20210716_070208187.thumb.jpg.14f2fac73119588a0a1c303169fbe9cc.jpg x Jubaea in BrissagoPXL_20210716_083656380.thumb.jpg.e281ad8fea12ef08201ca1d398563538.jpg

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Looking at that Trachy forest - i don't know how anyone can see that and say that Trachycarpus don't look tropical.  That is a jungle!

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1 hour ago, Jesse PNW said:

Looking at that Trachy forest - i don't know how anyone can see that and say that Trachycarpus don't look tropical.  That is a jungle!

I agree, I was pretty blown away with how it looked.  I would have never expected that.

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You guys should see Hutch's Trachy forest.  

Hutch I really hope you load up on pictures of the place before you take off.  I'm still hoping I can make it down there with my wife one of these days. 

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Have been to Switzerland many times - for skiing, too (Jungrau-region spectacular) - and was aware of some warmer pockets but this...

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is almost unreal... (no doubting the origin of this image at all!!)

However, great documentation - next time I hope to see those Jubeas by myself!

 

regards

Lars

 

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It's crazy how good everything fared, because I know that this place has seen some very cold winters in the past. Most winters are very mild though.

Yes it's me Hortulanus 😂

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