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Reverse Mule

Fallen Munk

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I was gifted this possible reverse mule from @Josue Diaz  with the purchase of some other seedlings.  Syagrus romanzoffiana X Butia The box took three weeks in shipping and most of the seedlings had started composting in the box and have perished.  But this one bare rooted seedling had actually started growing new roots in the moss.  I potted it up and it already growing.  Anybody else growing one?

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I was.  Grew it about 5 years.  It was fugly and got the chop last winter.

Definitely not as attractive as a regular mule, IMO.

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Ben Rogers

On the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W

My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

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I keep hearing that, does anybody have a picture of a mature one? I would love to see with my own eyes.

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Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

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44 minutes ago, freakypalmguy said:

I keep hearing that, does anybody have a picture of a mature one? I would love to see with my own eyes.

Unfortunately I didn't take any - but it was not only atrocious, it was exceptionally slow growing.  It really didn't do much in 5 years.  Very odd!

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Ben Rogers

On the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W

My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

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1 hour ago, freakypalmguy said:

I keep hearing that, does anybody have a picture of a mature one? I would love to see with my own eyes.

Same here!

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2 hours ago, Ben in Norcal said:

Unfortunately I didn't take any - but it was not only atrocious, it was exceptionally slow growing.  It really didn't do much in 5 years.  Very odd!

That is weird, you’d think with queen as the mother it would be a rocket. 

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Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

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Looks like a fan type palm you got there...:hmm: Possibly mislabeled?

 

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Mesa,Arizona

 

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Mesa, Arizona

 

Temps between 29F and 115F each year

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11 minutes ago, aztropic said:

Looks like a fan type palm you got there...:hmm: Possibly mislabeled?

 

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Mesa,Arizona

 

I agree.

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30 minutes ago, aztropic said:

Looks like a fan type palm you got there...:hmm: Possibly mislabeled?

 

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Mesa,Arizona

 

I suppose it's possible, however I've seen this type of growth from Canary Island date palms too.

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1 hour ago, Fallen Munk said:

I suppose it's possible, however I've seen this type of growth from Canary Island date palms too.

I guess time will tell then.

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1 hour ago, Fallen Munk said:

I suppose it's possible, however I've seen this type of growth from Canary Island date palms too.

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That is 100% a fan palm, there is no question.  Livistona?

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Ben Rogers

On the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W

My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

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2 hours ago, aztropic said:

Looks like a fan type palm you got there...:hmm: Possibly mislabeled?

 

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Mesa,Arizona

 

The original palm he posted is most definitely NOT a fan palm. I collect odd-looking seedlings from beneath my syagrus and butia. Notice the long petioles on the original palm. 

1 hour ago, Fallen Munk said:

I suppose it's possible, however I've seen this type of growth from Canary Island date palms too.

CIDP2.jpg

This is kind of hard to tell, but it is a different palm from the syagrus x in question.

13 minutes ago, Ben in Norcal said:

That is 100% a fan palm, there is no question.  Livistona?

The original palm in question (in the first picture) coudn't be a livistona. 

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21 minutes ago, Ben in Norcal said:

That is 100% a fan palm, there is no question.  Livistona?

You are 100% wrong.

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31 minutes ago, Ben in Norcal said:

That is 100% a fan palm, there is no question.  Livistona?

Here's proof it's not.  Same palm about two months later.  Pinnate.  

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I have a whole crop of these Canary Island date palms that I grew from seed that are pinnate right out of the spear for some reason.  When the spear first emerges, it looks like a fan palm because all you see is the leaf tips until it grows out further.  Then you can tell it's a pinnate palm.

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So in my opinion, what you are seeing on that mule palm is just the tip of the pinnate leaves emerging and once it grows out far enough, it will be clearly a pinnate palm.

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