What Variety of Sabal uresana?

[PlantDad]

It's really blue. I heard there are at least 2 varieties. Not sure which one I have. It barely grew this summer though. Not sure if they are supposed to grow very fast

[Jubaea_James760]

Not sure which variety you have but I can definitely tell you their really slow in pots. They speed up dramatically once they get in the ground.  Of all the Sabal's I grew in pots Uresana is the slowest for me 

How is you Sabal Causiarum & Guatemalensis doing?

[PlantDad]

Thanks. I will have to put it in the ground then. My sabal guatemalensis and sabal causiarum are doing amazing although they are not really growing for me right now

[Fusca]

On 12/13/2020 at 2:20 AM, PlantDad said:

It's really blue. I heard there are at least 2 varieties. Not sure which one I have.

I have an uresana seedling that is really blue also, but from what I understood it's likely a coastal variety and not the ultra-blue mountain variety.  My larger uresana is a coastal variety and it's still a "gun metal" blue color.  They're both very drought tolerant which is important here.  I agree with James, it'll grow better in the ground but at that size you might want to consider protecting it the first winter or two in the ground which should be pretty easy while small.

[amh]

22 hours ago, James760 said:

Not sure which variety you have but I can definitely tell you their really slow in pots. They speed up dramatically once they get in the ground.  Of all the Sabal's I grew in pots Uresana is the slowest for me 

I've noticed this too. I have found that the uresanas put down more growth in the roots than leaves.

[amh]

13 minutes ago, Fusca said:

I have an uresana seedling that is really blue also, but from what I understood it's likely a coastal variety and not the ultra-blue mountain variety.  My larger uresana is a coastal variety and it's still a "gun metal" blue color.  They're both very drought tolerant which is important here.  I agree with James, it'll grow better in the ground but at that size you might want to consider protecting it the first winter or two in the ground which should be pretty easy while small.

Does the color change when the plants are exposed to more sun? My seedlings are silver/blue/green when growing in protected areas, but turn more silver when placed in full sun.

[Fusca]

9 minutes ago, amh said:

Does the color change when the plants are exposed to more sun? My seedlings are silver/blue/green when growing in protected areas, but turn more silver when placed in full sun.

I believe so - I understand it is the case with Chamaerops humilis var argentea, Serenoa repens and likely Bismarkia too.  Seems the silver/blue color reflects the sun better and helps protect the palm.

[Chester B]

In your photo it looks more green then the one I have.  I got mine from @TexasColdHardyPalms and was told it's the more hardy ecotype.

[PlantDad]

On 12/16/2020 at 5:53 PM, Fusca said:

I have an uresana seedling that is really blue also, but from what I understood it's likely a coastal variety and not the ultra-blue mountain variety.  My larger uresana is a coastal variety and it's still a "gun metal" blue color.  They're both very drought tolerant which is important here.  I agree with James, it'll grow better in the ground but at that size you might want to consider protecting it the first winter or two in the ground which should be pretty easy while small.

That's interesting and good to know.  Is the coastal form more hardy than the other?

[Fusca]

4 hours ago, PlantDad said:

That's interesting and good to know.  Is the coastal form more hardy than the other?

The inland variety is bluer and more cold hardy than the coastal form.  Coastal form, logically, comes from a lower elevation while the inland variety is from a higher elevation.

[PlantDad]

That's good to know! Thanks. Do you know about how hardy the coastal variety is?

[PlantDad]

6 hours ago, Fusca said:

The inland variety is bluer and more cold hardy than the coastal form.  Coastal form, logically, comes from a lower elevation while the inland variety is from a higher elevation.

I wonder where I can get the inland variety?

[Chester B]

37 minutes ago, PlantDad said:

I wonder where I can get the inland variety?

From @TexasColdHardyPalms.  He shipped it to me, I don't know if there is another source for these.

[Fusca]

Chester's correct, I believe Joseph sells them as Sabal uresana "highlands" or "highland blue".

[PlantDad]

Ok thanks. Texascoldhardypalms has a lot of great stuff