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Southernmost Palm in South America

Alex High

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Hello palm lovers,

I was wondering where the southernmost palm on the South American continent is located. Not the southernmost native palm, just the southernmost grown palm. I was looking at different cities at the southern end of the continent on Google Maps, and the southernmost palms that I found were in the town of Comodoro Rivadavia, Argentina (I will put pictures and Google Maps links below). The palms that I found were mostly Phoenix canariensis and some of them are quite large, but I saw one T. fortunei. I was surprised by the number of palms in Comodoro Rivadavia, that far south on the continent. They are everywhere there. The arid climate must help. There must be other palms somewhere south of there in South America that I have yet to find. Do any of you know of any? Thanks!

PalmsUSA

Palm #1:

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Palm #2:

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Palm #3:

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More palms:

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And more palms:

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Another Phoenix canariensis:

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Trachycarpus fortunei:

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CIDP and especially trachycarpus would grow pretty well in Southern Argentina and Southern Chile, in fact southern Chile even more so perhaps due to a stronger oceanic influence.

Not wanting to divert the original subject but you can find CIDP and Trachycarpus, even Nikau Palms, growing in Invercargill at 46.45 S.

Would still be very interested to see others comments on South America as a continent specifically though, I bet there's some surprises in the deep south there.

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Indeed, if Phoenix can be grown there this opens up a whole list of similarly hardy pinnate & palmate species! South America has so many great native species, I would be surprised if NOT there!Maybe some more googleEarth sleuthing is in order? LOL- never thought about using it for this purpose but splendid idea now that so many of us are tethered to home! Good job and thanks for the pictures.

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2 hours ago, sipalms said:

CIDP and especially trachycarpus would grow pretty well in Southern Argentina and Southern Chile, in fact southern Chile even more so perhaps due to a stronger oceanic influence.

Not wanting to divert the original subject but you can find CIDP and Trachycarpus, even Nikau Palms, growing in Invercargill at 46.45 S.

Would still be very interested to see others comments on South America as a continent specifically though, I bet there's some surprises in the deep south there.

Thanks for responding. I had no idea palms grew in Invercargill. That's awesome! I bet there are surprises too about what palms lie at the southern tip of South America. Take care!

 

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16 minutes ago, palmnut-fry said:

Indeed, if Phoenix can be grown there this opens up a whole list of similarly hardy pinnate & palmate species! South America has so many great native species, I would be surprised if NOT there!Maybe some more googleEarth sleuthing is in order? LOL- never thought about using it for this purpose but splendid idea now that so many of us are tethered to home! Good job and thanks for the pictures.

E Fry

Ha! Agreed. You are most welcome for the pictures. They are just screenshots of Google Earth. I think some more Google Earth sleuthing is certainly needed to discover the true southernmost palm on the continent. Google Maps/Earth is so helpful when searching for palms because you can "visit' virtually every place on Earth, no pun intended. Thanks!

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BIG UPDATE! I just discovered a thread about the southernmost Canary Island date palm in the world, and in it are mentioned several locations south of Comodoro Rivadavia! I went on Google Maps and searched for a while and found the locations of the palms mentioned. I will put the link to the thread below as well as the palms mentioned:

 

Phoenix canariensis in Caleta Olivia, south of Comodoro Rivadavia

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Another P. canariensis in Caleta Olivia

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Two tiny P. canariensis in Puerto Deseado, south of Caleta Olivia. Certainly two of the southernmost palms on the continent, and in the world

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Plus a bonus T. fortunei I found in Caleta Olivia!

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Hey everyone,

I have been prowling around on Google Maps some more and, though it is not a palm, I found this lonesome looking cycad outside a hotel in the small village of  Villa Puerto Edén, Chile, south of any palm I have seen so far in South America:

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On 11/24/2020 at 5:26 PM, PalmsUSA said:

Ha! Agreed. You are most welcome for the pictures. They are just screenshots of Google Earth. I think some more Google Earth sleuthing is certainly needed to discover the true southernmost palm on the continent. Google Maps/Earth is so helpful when searching for palms because you can "visit' virtually every place on Earth, no pun intended. Thanks!

Maybe there's a few Trachys and needles in tiera del fuego.

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7 minutes ago, EastCanadaTropicals said:

Maybe there's a few Trachys and needles in tiera del fuego.

Yeah they could probably survive in a few locations there. Go search for them on Google Maps, that is what I did to find the palms I found. We need a thorough search of the southern end of the continent for the true southernmost palm in South America. Thank you and take care!

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24 minutes ago, PalmsUSA said:

Yeah they could probably survive in a few locations there. Go search for them on Google Maps, that is what I did to find the palms I found. We need a thorough search of the southern end of the continent for the true southernmost palm in South America. Thank you and take care!

PalmsUSA

Ok, I'll try to search them but it'll be difficult in the major cities.

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37 minutes ago, EastCanadaTropicals said:

Ok, I'll try to search them but it'll be difficult in the major cities.

Yeah, that is true, but there is Street View practically everywhere. Thanks and take care!

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1 minute ago, PalmsUSA said:

Yeah, that is true, but there is Street View practically everywhere. Thanks and take care!

Ok. Move to Tryon if you're moving near Asheville, their in zone 8.

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29 minutes ago, EastCanadaTropicals said:

Ok. Move to Tryon if you're moving near Asheville, their in zone 8.

What? I am not moving near Asheville, but I will be visiting there soon. Thanks!

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2 hours ago, PalmsUSA said:

What? I am not moving near Asheville, but I will be visiting there soon. Thanks!

Oh, sorry, I was talking to Mr samurai sword.

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11 hours ago, EastCanadaTropicals said:

Oh, sorry, I was talking to Mr samurai sword.

No problem! Thanks and have a good one!

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On 12/2/2020 at 4:00 PM, PalmsUSA said:

Hey everyone,

I have been prowling around on Google Maps some more and, though it is not a palm, I found this lonesome looking cycad outside a hotel in the small village of  Villa Puerto Edén, Chile, south of any palm I have seen so far in South America:

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This may be a fern (probably a Blechnum sp.) 

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50 minutes ago, Yort said:

This may be a fern (probably a Blechnum sp.) 

Yes I was thinking about that, the two can be quite hard to tell apart sometimes. I think you may be right. The only reason that made me say cycad were the stiff upright fronds but I think you are right. Thank you!

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