What type of Archonto are these?

[chad2468emr]

I swung by Uncle Jutty’s today and they had an Archonto triplet for sale that I’d noticed a few months ago. I’m pretty sure they’re stunted just by looking at them, but also because they had seriously outgrown their pot to the point their upper roots weren’t even covered anymore and there was a huge mass of roots under the pot. I’ve since hosed off a good bit of the old soil they had on the roots, pruned off some less-than-stellar-looking fronds, and planted in a 2:1:1 mix of pine bark, MG palm soil, and perlite in a 25 G pot. I actually cut off the smallest of the triplet too because it was SERIOUSLY stunted and I figured the two remaining would do much better without a third to compete with. (It still hurt my soul greatly to saw through that little guy, haha) 

Any idea what kind of Archonto these are? I assume they’re a regular ol cunninghamiana. They had them labeled as a Christmas palm when I saw them a few months ago which made me chuckle, and the woman who helped me wasn’t sure what kind they were. I figure maybe I lucked out and got something different, but I’m terrible at ID’ing these guys when they’re this size. 

Edited November 15, 2020 by chad2468emr

[chad2468emr]

Whoops! Seeing I posted this in “palms in pots” but I meant to post in the worldwide section. Well, they are in a pot though, so I guess I’m not that far off topic.  

[kinzyjr]

27 minutes ago, chad2468emr said:

I swung by Uncle Jutty’s today and they had an Archonto triplet for sale that I’d noticed a few months ago. I’m pretty sure they’re stunted just by looking at them, but also because they had seriously outgrown their pot to the point their upper roots weren’t even covered anymore and there was a huge mass of roots under the pot. I’ve since hosed off a good bit of the old soil they had on the roots, pruned off some less-than-stellar-looking fronds, and planted in a 2:1:1 mix of pine bark, MG palm soil, and perlite in a 25 G pot. I actually cut off the smallest of the triplet too because it was SERIOUSLY stunted and I figured the two remaining would do much better without a third to compete with. (It still hurt my soul greatly to saw through that little guy, haha) 

Any idea what kind of Archonto these are? I assume they’re a regular ol cunninghamiana. They had them labeled as a Christmas palm when I saw them a few months ago which made me chuckle, and the woman who helped me wasn’t sure what kind they were. I figure maybe I lucked out and got something different, but I’m terrible at ID’ing these guys when they’re this size.

If the underside of the leaflets is green instead of silver, it's probably cunninghamiana.

[chad2468emr]

10 minutes ago, kinzyjr said:

If the underside of the leaflets is green instead of silver, it's probably cunninghamiana.

Does this count as silver? They’re certainly “powdery” looking, and I know the flash likely makes it look more dramatic, but let me know what you think. 

[kinzyjr]

Looks like some silver to me.  Others will have to weight in on the exact ID.  The other species in that genus tend to have the silver undersides.  Probably an alexandrae, just based on probability, but no guarantee just based on silver undersides alone.

http://idtools.org/id/palms/palmid/factsheet.php?name=Archontophoenix+cunninghamiana

http://idtools.org/id/palms/palmid/factsheet.php?name=Archontophoenix+alexandrae

A great comparison of all 6 species:

https://www.junglemusic.net/King_Palm.html

[chad2468emr]

8 minutes ago, kinzyjr said:

Looks like some silver to me.  Others will have to weight in on the exact ID.  The other species in that genus tend to have the silver undersides.  Probably an alexandrae, just based on probability, but no guarantee just based on silver undersides alone.

http://idtools.org/id/palms/palmid/factsheet.php?name=Archontophoenix+cunninghamiana

http://idtools.org/id/palms/palmid/factsheet.php?name=Archontophoenix+alexandrae

A great comparison of all 6 species:

https://www.junglemusic.net/King_Palm.html

Those are some SERIOUSLY useful links! 

Overall, the lack of ramenta (I can’t find a single one, versus my cunninghamiana and purpurea which are covered with them on the undersides) has me thinking this is likely alexandrae.

I’ll wait to see what everyone else thinks before I get TOO excited but... neat!

Edited November 16, 2020 by chad2468emr

[Steve Mac]

Definitely not cunninghamiana, probably alexandrae.