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These are some CIDP sprouts I am getting after planting on Sep 8, 2020. I will be posting updates of these plants.

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climate change virginia
12 minutes ago, Teegurr said:

These are some CIDP sprouts I am getting after planting on Sep 8, 2020. I will be posting updates of these plants.

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Yay congrats on your CIPDs

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Teegurr
6 minutes ago, climate change virginia said:

Yay congrats on your CIPDs

Thank you very much! These were easy to germinate. Just plopped the seeds in the pots, watered when needed, and waited. Also, I put the seeds in sort of deep, like 1.25-1.5 inches.

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ChrisA

Great job!  I always get so excited sprouting seeds, but for some reason I SUCK at getting them past the strap leaf stage, they ALWAYS die on me!

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climate change virginia
1 hour ago, ChrisA said:

Great job!  I always get so excited sprouting seeds, but for some reason I SUCK at getting them past the strap leaf stage, they ALWAYS die on me!

I think its because they don't get enough water.

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51 minutes ago, climate change virginia said:

I think its because they don't get enough water.

I saw that other thread with the plastic pots and the trays, I’m going to look into that. Would be a huge help, I really want to do more growing from seed. Have you germinated any seed?

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Fusca
2 hours ago, ChrisA said:

Great job!  I always get so excited sprouting seeds, but for some reason I SUCK at getting them past the strap leaf stage, they ALWAYS die on me!

A few years back I was in the same boat.  Only the really tough ones would survive - anything remotely tropical would perish within a year.  But after joining here and reading up on others experiences - particularly with improved soil mixes - I'm killing a lot less now!  :lol:  My climate challenges here are more from intense sun and limited shade rather than cold but they are there nonetheless.  Well-draining medium is key for success in containers and it comes with a cost, but it's worth it.

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I think what stumps me is the well draining aspect vs. drying out too fast!  Also for the very few that seemed successful, moving them to a bigger pot sealed the deal...

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climate change virginia
9 hours ago, ChrisA said:

I saw that other thread with the plastic pots and the trays, I’m going to look into that. Would be a huge help, I really want to do more growing from seed. Have you germinated any seed?

Yes I have grown date palms. Use a paper towel and a plastic bag to get them to germinate and once the roots get 1/2-1 inches long pot them up and wait about a month put plastic wrap over the pot and only water it when it looks like the soil needs water.

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ChrisA

Thanks, I’m going to try again. 

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Teegurr

After three days, here are new pictures. The one in the terracotta pot seems to have grown quite a bit.

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Fusca

I recently sent some CIDP seeds to another Palmtalker and decided to sprout one myself.  I didn't plant mine as deep and the radical pushed up the seed into the air.

 

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Teegurr
1 hour ago, Fusca said:

I recently sent some CIDP seeds to another Palmtalker and decided to sprout one myself.  I didn't plant mine as deep and the radical pushed up the seed into the air.

 

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Nice work man! Good luck on your journey! 

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climate change virginia

I don't buy date palm seeds when I can just eat dates from my pantry and save the seeds.

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Teegurr
27 minutes ago, climate change virginia said:

I don't buy date palm seeds when I can just eat dates from my pantry and save the seeds.

Yeah, but not CIDPs, right?

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climate change virginia
2 hours ago, Teegurr said:

Yeah, but not CIDPs, right?

diffidently not cipds I only grow medjool

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Fusca

CIDP dates are edible, but they taste terrible!  :sick:

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Teegurr
3 hours ago, Fusca said:

CIDP dates are edible, but they taste terrible!  :sick:

Yeah I had one, it was super astringent and left a dry taste in the mouth.

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Teegurr

Here they are 11 days later. I also have two more (not shown) that are outside. They handled 56F well last night so I'm leaving them out another night, it won't get colder than that. Anyone know at what temperature small strap leaf CIDPs sustain damage? 

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Fusca
10 hours ago, Teegurr said:

Here they are 11 days later. I also have two more (not shown) that are outside. They handled 56F well last night so I'm leaving them out another night, it won't get colder than that. Anyone know at what temperature small strap leaf CIDPs sustain damage? 

You shouldn't have any problems with them outside unless it drops below freezing for more than 24 hours or below 25F for several hours.  I kept my cold-hardy seedlings outside under a covered patio all winter the past three years only bringing inside the most tender ones when it hit 20F with no issues.

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Fallen Munk
11 hours ago, Teegurr said:

Here they are 11 days later. I also have two more (not shown) that are outside. They handled 56F well last night so I'm leaving them out another night, it won't get colder than that. Anyone know at what temperature small strap leaf CIDPs sustain damage? 

 

 

I germinated some in the spring and I left them outside until just a few days ago.  We've had a few nights of frost with no damage.  Most are still in strap leaf, a few are pushing out their first divided frond.  Not bad growth for only six months from seed.

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25 minutes ago, Fallen Munk said:

I germinated some in the spring and I left them outside until just a few days ago.  We've had a few nights of frost with no damage.  Most are still in strap leaf, a few are pushing out their first divided frond.  Not bad growth for only six months from seed.

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Wow, they are certainly cold-hardy! That surprised me, as small strap leaf seedlings, that they can survive frost. Thanks for the picture as well, it gives me an idea of how they'll look in a few months time.

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13 hours ago, Teegurr said:

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nice giraffe 

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Here's a GIF of the bigger one growing over 38 days.

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On 11/11/2020 at 9:09 PM, Fusca said:

I recently sent some CIDP seeds to another Palmtalker and decided to sprout one myself.  I didn't plant mine as deep and the radical pushed up the seed into the air.

 

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After this I reburied the sprout but it pushed back up even further!  About 90% of the sprout was above the soil!  This time I completely repotted it.  It was trying to escape from that soil mix!  I've never seen one come out that much before.

 

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5 hours ago, Fusca said:

After this I reburied the sprout but it pushed back up even further!  About 90% of the sprout was above the soil!  This time I completely repotted it.  It was trying to escape from that soil mix!  I've never seen one come out that much before.

CIDP's get deep roots fast.  Once they hit bottom, the only way to go is up.

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43 minutes ago, Fallen Munk said:

CIDP's get deep roots fast.  Once they hit bottom, the only way to go is up.

This is true, but in my case I don't think it ever hit bottom.  The tip of the radical is only a half inch below the surface in the second picture and the cup is about 6" tall.  I repotted into a deeper cup.  The seedling length is only about 4" currently.  It's as if there was concrete in the bottom third of the first cup!  (There isn't). :lol: It's completely covered again now - we'll see if it tries to escape again...

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Teegurr

They are chugging along s l o w l y, but steadily.

Can't wait for second leaves!

 

 

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Who'd thought we might have to replace established in-ground CIDP a month ago?  Good thing we started ours!  Mine climbed out a bit more after repotting, but is finally looking somewhat normal now.

 

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climate change virginia
On 11/23/2020 at 11:32 PM, Teegurr said:

Here they are 11 days later. I also have two more (not shown) that are outside. They handled 56F well last night so I'm leaving them out another night, it won't get colder than that. Anyone know at what temperature small strap leaf CIDPs sustain damage? 

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You don't need to worry about 56 degree weather my palms germinated in that weather

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Teegurr

11 mo. old

On their fourth leaves. 

 

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Fallen Munk

Here's the same one from my earlier photo, 14 months from seed.

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Teegurr
1 hour ago, Fallen Munk said:

Here's the same one from my earlier photo, 14 months from seed.

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Very nice growth! 

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Just now, Teegurr said:

Very nice growth! 

Thanks!  I'm shocked at how fast they grow in dappled shade.  The ones I put in full sun look like runts.  I expected the opposite.

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13 hours ago, Teegurr said:

11 mo. old

On their fourth leaves. 

 

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It's funny how all palms basically look the same at this stage. My sabal looks just like this. Someday I want to try a cidp though, where did you acquire your seeds?

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Teegurr
8 hours ago, Centraltxpalm said:

It's funny how all palms basically look the same at this stage. My sabal looks just like this. Someday I want to try a cidp though, where did you acquire your seeds?

Treeseeds.com. 25 for 3 dollars. I planted 8 seeds, and 5 sprouted. Germination took 40 days. 

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22 hours ago, Teegurr said:

11 mo. old

On their fourth leaves. 

 

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When are y’all planning on putting them in the ground? I have a couple this size and I’m thinking of planting them in the ground next spring.

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Teegurr
1 hour ago, joetx said:

When are y’all planning on putting them in the ground? I have a couple this size and I’m thinking of planting them in the ground next spring.

I'm not planning to, but I'd wait until the leaves are pinnate if I were to plant it. Up to knee level is a good benchmark, alternatively.

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palmne3rd
On 11/9/2006 at 12:30 PM, BigWaveDave said:

Hey Jason, I think that your results are amazing.  Do you think that the hydroponic plants can be transitioned to regular soil succesfully and easily?

 

On 8/16/2021 at 5:15 PM, Fallen Munk said:

Here's the same one from my earlier photo, 14 months from seed.

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Hi Fallen Monk, your plants look great.  What soil mixture are you using to obtain these great results?  THank you!

 

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