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Jubaea germination update: 5 months + other cocoides and a C. macroglossa!

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On May 4th I received 28 Jubaea chilensis seeds, harvested the fall of previous year. I soaked them for 3 days and placed them in community pots with 4:1 mixture of perlite:peat moss (Canadian) and moistened with water and a LOT of fungicide, all sealed in plastic bags. Depending on the weather and my curiousity, they spent the next 5 months either inside (76-78F/23-24C), the garage (75-90F/26-33C), and outside (70F-90F/21-33C+intense sunlight). I used up nearly an entire bottle of (rather pricey!) copper fungicide in the process. Living in North FL this was a rather poor choice as they won't survive in the ground here, though this palm has always had a place in my heart from when I used to live in SOCAL and I wanted at least a piece of it anyways. :P

4/28 germinated, with 2 of those 4 surviving today. My first germination I actually got in about 45 days but then rotted. My second one popped after ~60 days and is the one in the top image. I actually sold last month (fearing it would rot at some point). Germ #3 rotted. The bottom (#4) I'm still holding on to see just how far it can make it anyways. Final destination when it gets a bit too pot-bound? :unsure:

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Next are roughly 20 Butia odorata seeds I collected from a fruiting palm growing locally in July. Roughly 2/3 of the seeds I took from the palm (which seemed ripe enough, yellow-orange) and a few that fell on the ground. There were volunteer seedlings scattered around as well, though I didn't take any. These have spent roughly 3 months now in a ventilated baggie with a peat moss/perlite mixture + tons of fungcidie on a bottom heater, steadily 85-90F/30-33C. Not a single germination yet!!! 0/20 for these ones :rage:

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Last but not least of the cocoides is Jubaeopsis caffra. I received 5 of these pricey seeds as the last batch on RPS and they arrived in August. 100% an impulse buy. These are in a community "pot" on the heating pad with the same mixtures as above. Soaked for about 5 days this time, desperate to "wake" them after probably spending months in a warehouse in Germany. 0/5 germination so far, though these I will be patient with.

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Next up is my Copernicia macroglossa seedling. I received 10 of these in the same RPS order (though these were under "new" IIRC) and have received the same treatment as my Jubaeopsis. Surprise surprise, about 3 weeks in I was surprised with my first strap leaf! Here it is in a rather unusual "lava-lamp" module with recycled plastic cups, with a solid mixture of cactus soil and perlite. I like having a bit of green thumb even if it ain't pretty :innocent:. It went straight outside (under a screened-in patio) and there is a bit of a burn on the top. It was probably a bit too early to take them out, though it has "bent" down a little towards the south, so it is alive and "tracking" the sun. I have never seen this in my experience growing palms! (P.S. while taking it out of the community pot I accidentally severed about 80-90% of the radicle's connection to the seed. I've actually made this mistake with a P. dactylifera and it survived, so I'm confident this will make it through as well). The backup stars in the pic by the way are my dragon fruit, mango, and desert rose seedlings!

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Speaking of the P. dactylifera seedling, here it is. This is in fact my first successfully germinated seedling of all these. I got 3/6 to germinate after a month, only this one "popped" up a strap leaf. And here it is straight in the ground in its 4-month-old glory. It quickly grew its first strap leaf, then "stalled" (probably developing roots) and then sped back up again with a second and now a third on the way.

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And that's it for me currently. Pretty much everything I grow is from seed; not only is it cheaper but I find it palmateering at its purest! ;) 

I have actually 2 more batches of seeds on the way: Roystonea regia (from a fellow PT'er, thank you!) and some Coccothrinax borhidiana :D:D:D Trithrinax campestris is on the short list.

 

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kinzyjr

@CodyORB Nice work and great documentation!  I recently started germinating another batch of Jubaea as well.

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I thought I’d give you guys an update on my Copernicia Macroglossa: it’s a survivor!

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My dactylifera seedlings are way slow too. They germinated quick in paper towels but have been looking like a couple blades of grass for months.

Thanks for sharing, Cody. I got some borhidianas to germinate, probably about 80-90%, with the tall 8 in community pot doing the best, and the baggy were a bit less successful.  For the pot I used a miracle-gro seed starter mix layer in top and mostly coco-coir for the bottom layers. I kept them as hot as I could with a black tray covering the top in the VERY HOT Utah summer sun.

Then heat mats at night, covered up and checking the soil moisture content carefully,, and that starter mix stays moist a long time but it only got severely dry once. I think it took them about 2 1/2 months.

I was told to keep them out the sun mostly, even as adults.  That advice surprised me a little. 

Good luck with yours.

 

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3 hours ago, Frond-friend42 said:

My dactylifera seedlings are way slow too. They germinated quick in paper towels but have been looking like a couple blades of grass for months.

Thanks for sharing, Cody. I got some borhidianas to germinate, probably about 80-90%, with the tall 8 in community pot doing the best, and the baggy were a bit less successful.  For the pot I used a miracle-gro seed starter mix layer in top and mostly coco-coir for the bottom layers. I kept them as hot as I could with a black tray covering the top in the VERY HOT Utah summer sun.

Then heat mats at night, covered up and checking the soil moisture content carefully,, and that starter mix stays moist a long time but it only got severely dry once. I think it took them about 2 1/2 months.

I was told to keep them out the sun mostly, even as adults.  That advice surprised me a little. 

Good luck with yours.

 

Great advice on the Borhidiana’s! They’re on the heating pad right now.

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Victory! A Butia odorata. 2 weeks in the fridge a little earlier seemed to do the trick!

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