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Autumn palms in NE Fla St. Augustine, FL

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kinzyjr

@Lou-StAugFL Now that is my type of Autumn!  Thank you for sharing the photos!

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palmsOrl

Which species is that pinnate palm in the third to last photo Lou?

I had a fabulous time during my last day trip to St. Augustine.  We had dinner at a little restaurant by the shore that had a garden that reminded me a lot of yours.  Lots of zone 9b and  some zone 10 stuff, like banana, papaya, seagrape, Phoenix roebelenii, Dypsis lutescens, etc.  

Your garden is the perfect fusion of Deep South charm and the lush tropical touches made possible by the milder coastal Central Florida climate.

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Lou-StAugFL

The palm in the foreground of the third to the last photo is Veitchia merrillii, Adonidia merrillii planted in large pots. But I have not had to move them in several winters so they will probably go in the ground in March.  I also grow beccariophoenix alfredii, Rhapis Excelsa, Livistona chinensis, Arenga engleri, Phoenix reclinata, archontophoenix cunninghamiana, Syagrus romanzoffiana, mule palm, pindo palm, Chamaerops humilis, Chamaedorea cataractarum, Chamaedorea elegans, chamaedorea microspadix, washingtonia robusta, washingtonia filifera, Phoenix roebelenii, Dypsis lutescens.  I do have some nice sized seagrapes, papayas, mango, starfruit and banana.  I am fortunate to be close to the Intracoastal Waterway so that keeps us pretty warm in the winter as well as the great live oak canopy that keeps frost off of everything in the backyard.  I've lived on this property almost 40 years.  Back in the late 70s and 80s we had much colder nighttime temperatures we were solid 9A then, for the past decade we have been much more 9B.  Fingers crossed for this winter.  It gets much colder and frosty just a couple miles inland from here on cold nights.  My bananas and papayas haven't lost any leaves the past three winters.  My carambola is taller than my house as is my mango.

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topwater

Love the alfies, beautiful garden! 

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Lou-StAugFL

The alfie in full sun is much nicer than the one under the oak canopy, but I wanted to make sure I still had one if it ever gets really cold. 

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Frond-friend42

Breathtaking.

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necturus

What's the coldest the Alfies and Archontophoenix have seen? Looks great!

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palmsOrl

To my eye, that is an unusual looking Veitchia (Adonidia merrillii).  I actually like the look of your palm more that the typical Adonidia.  The trunk rings, color and texture look a bit different, but it is probably related to its particular growing conditions.  Maybe it is just me, who knows.

I would love to have an Adonidia that looks like that though.  Nice growing.

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Lou-StAugFL

I wonder if because the Adonidia is grown in lots of shade from the oaks if that is what makes the trunk rings and color a little different?

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topwater

Hey Don, here’s a pic of the Bizzies at my office, it’s a few block away from the TC Dike, real close to your relatives. 

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Lou-StAugFL

Beautiful, I really need to try and grow a bizzie.

 

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palmsOrl
On 10/1/2020 at 4:03 PM, Lou-StAugFL said:

I wonder if because the Adonidia is grown in lots of shade from the oaks if that is what makes the trunk rings and color a little different?

I'm sure that's it.  I actually prefer the appearance of some palms when shade grown, even if they grow in full sun in habitat.  Livistona chinensis for example.

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topwater
On 10/2/2020 at 9:57 PM, palmsOrl said:
On 10/1/2020 at 3:03 PM, Lou-StAugFL said:

 

I'm sure that's it.  I actually prefer the appearance of some palms when shade grown, even if they grow in full sun in habitat.  Livistona chinensis for example.

I agree, shade grown, stretched out chinensis looks like a different (better) species than the stumpy, chlorotic, full sun plants in my hood.  Plus, those dudes are huge. 

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Kekoanui

Aloha Lou, my wife and I just bought a home on Anastasia Island.  Glad to here you consider this area 9B.  The town of St. John where I moved from is notoriously prone to frost events.  The backyard of my new property faces south and is under canopy of a giant live oak and several laurel oaks.  Here's a list of palms I've grown up to 15 gallon container size since 2015 that I'll be putting in the ground:

licuala peltata var sumawongii

licuala ramsayi

chambeyronia macrocarpa

heterospathe cagayensis

dypsis basilonga

cyphophoenix nucele

caryota mitis variegata

schippia concolor

kentia forsteriana

ptychosperma schefferi 

dypsis carlsmithii

Great to here there are mangoes growing locally too.  That's the one thing I really miss about my other home in Brevard County.  Only other mango tree I've see this far north was in Palm Coast along the canals.

Cheers!

 

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Mr.SamuraiSword

those queens are huge for north FL standards, you know when they were planted?

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Lou-StAugFL

I have lived here since January 1983 but don't think I planted them until the early 90s since we had such bad freezes in 1989 and the early 80s.  So probably a little older than 25 years old.  Think they got especially tall because of the shade they were reaching for the sun.

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