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Sabal miamiensis Leu Garden: HUGE Fruit & Seeds

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My second/younger Sabal miamiensis I germinated from a dessicated seed I found on a plaqued palm at Leu Garden in Orlando, FL, flowered and set fruit for the first time this spring. And that fruit and seeds are by far the largest I've personally ever seen in a Sabal palm - more than 2x larger than those of my first S. miamiensis, which came from seeds collected by Christian Faulkner. In addition, that crop of seeds started ripening in early Sept. Sabals in SWFL generally ripen from mid-Oct. to late Nov. That early ripening may just be a variation on a norm but it is new to me and I'm not sure what to make of it. But the palm nerd in me finds all this exciting.

Sabal miamiensis fr Leu Garden seed, Cape Coral, FL 2020

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    • PalmatierMeg
      By PalmatierMeg
      My second Sabal miamiensis, grown from a seed I collected from a plaqued palm at Leu Botanical Garden in Orlando, FL, has produced its first crop of seeds. They are by far the largest Sabal seeds I have ever seen in person. I posted about them in a topic I link to below.
      https://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/65324-sabal-miamiensis-leu-garden-huge-fruit-seeds/&tab=comments#comment-954404
      So, are these seeds the offspring of a pure S. miamiensis or a hybrid between S.m. and another Sabal species growing in Leu Garden? I'm not sure and I believe no one else is either.
      If you wish to learn more about S. miamiensis, read the following article from Palmpedia
      https://www.palmpedia.net/wiki/Sabal_miamiensis
      I have another Sabal miamiensis that I received as a tiny seedling in 2008. It has been seeding for years and I thought it had large seeds - until now. This year I cut off its inflorescenses so its genetics would not interfere with the newer palm. However, I have seeds of my older S.m. remaining from 2019 to compare. My younger S.m. flowered and set seeds earlier than than the older. Those seeds also ripened 6-8 weeks earlier than any other Sabal. I finished harvesting them earlier this week. Sabal palm seeds in Cape Coral generally ripen from late Oct. through Nov. Not only are these seeds exceptionally large but they are also fewer in number than I have seen on any other Sabal except uber dwarf Sabal minors.
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      I want to make these unusually large Sabal miamiensis 'Leu Garden' seeds available to PTers. I am also offering the remainder of my older miamiensis' 2019 crop at a discount. Sabal seeds are not short-lived like some palm seeds and these nearly year-old seeds should still germinate well. Perhaps some of you might wish to grow both sets of seeds side by side for comparison, then report back to the forum with results. I can package both sets for combined shipping.
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    • PalmatierMeg
      By PalmatierMeg
      My second/younger Sabal miamiensis I germinated from a dessicated seed I found on a plaqued palm at Leu Garden in Orlando, FL, flowered and set fruit for the first time this spring. And that fruit and seeds are by far the largest I've personally ever seen in a Sabal palm - more than 2x larger than those of my first S. miamiensis, which came from seeds collected by Christian Faulkner. In addition, that crop of seeds started ripening in early Sept. Sabals in SWFL generally ripen from mid-Oct. to late Nov. That early ripening may just be a variation on a norm but it is new to me and I'm not sure what to make of it. But the palm nerd in me finds all this exciting.
      Sabal miamiensis fr Leu Garden seed, Cape Coral, FL 2020

    • PalmatierMeg
      By PalmatierMeg
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      Sabal miamiensis Cleaned Seeds: 50 seeds @ $10.00 for lot
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      Many of you may have read the story of Sabal miamiensis: A distinctive population of a Sabal sp discovered on a limestone outcrop in SE FL, described and named as a unique species Sabal miamiensis. Specimens were distributed to botanical gardens and a few private gardens. In the meantime developers wiped out that small original population, essentially making this palm extinct in the wild. Since the new millenial, controversy erupted over whether Sabal miamiensis is a separate species, a form of S. palmetto or S. etonia or a hybrid of Sabal this and Sabal that. Personally, I don't care because this palm is unique.
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      Sabal miamiensis germinated from Leu Garden seed

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