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Hybrid with Armament?

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Any of the hybrid gurus out there get any hybrids that grow with armament? I bought a plant from a very reputable hybridizer and it has grown with spines. It’s supposed to be Butia X Parajubea . Looks like Butia, but maybe a bit different, or maybe I just want to see a difference. A4B0E516-A998-4242-8F85-A9F0780A62C9.thumb.jpeg.82994f2979ef99323a433b4114555b88.jpeg

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Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

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My guess would be pure Butia Paraguayensis.  Occasional contamination’s occur — if the hybridizer was Patrick he’d likely send you a replacement plant, as he once did for me.

Glad to see you posting again.  You should show off your collection, must be impressive by now.  I thought you tried your hand with BxP (Sunkha) and even the holy grail BxCoconut with resulting seeds.  Were any of the latter seeds viable?  

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Steve

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Yes Patrick did send a replacement, he’s top notch. I still wondered about this one. It grew very fast and has a slightly different look,  but then popped out the armament as it matured. 

Steve, thank you. I did have a handful of germinated seeds from those crosses, but I was devastated one day when I went out to the green house and something had chewed off all of the young seedlings, I gave up after that. 
 

The garden has matured a bit, I see if I can’t get out a take some pics.

 I’ve since started to hybridize again with all the time I’ve had lately and have a few plants with maturing seed we will see.

Matt

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Matt in Temecula, CA

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18 hours ago, freakypalmguy said:

Yes Patrick did send a replacement, he’s top notch. I still wondered about this one. It grew very fast and has a slightly different look,  but then popped out the armament as it matured. 

Steve, thank you. I did have a handful of germinated seeds from those crosses, but I was devastated one day when I went out to the green house and something had chewed off all of the young seedlings, I gave up after that. 
 

The garden has matured a bit, I see if I can’t get out a take some pics.

 I’ve since started to hybridize again with all the time I’ve had lately and have a few plants with maturing seed we will see.

Matt

That was a traumatic event Matt!  Small consolation but I’ve only seen one or two purported Butia x Coconut and neither looked the way we’d hope.  I’d like to see an attempt toward a Beccariophoenix hybrid since they’re more cold hardy anyway.

It would be great to see some of your Jubaeas since we can’t even grow those (in pure form anyway) here on the east coast.

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Steve

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On 8/8/2020 at 6:08 AM, swolf said:

That was a traumatic event Matt!  Small consolation but I’ve only seen one or two purported Butia x Coconut and neither looked the way we’d hope.  I’d like to see an attempt toward a Beccariophoenix hybrid since they’re more cold hardy anyway.

It would be great to see some of your Jubaeas since we can’t even grow those (in pure form anyway) here on the east coast.

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Steve

Here’s few shots of some of my Jubea Steve, some are so slow I wonder if they actually grow at all, the first two are doing nicely.1AD3C513-B742-40F0-A9C0-5C5C1F606EDA.thumb.jpeg.28bb7e1937f388ba2a432f04b92ce2ab.jpegF862E385-FD50-4D18-A5E8-AAEB3C343240.thumb.jpeg.ce827077f60acfa63f29d13d7181271e.jpeg773FEA33-9ADE-4799-9F8E-93FA3CC3E351.thumb.jpeg.f29cc35c95852e7532781fd2ec54dff2.jpeg4CAC8BCA-068A-4EFE-BCF2-0ECAB84E8252.thumb.jpeg.2663f9bddd92f821f44ece6c3c124f71.jpeg

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Matt in Temecula, CA

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Nice Matt — what’s the diameter on the base/trunk  of the first Jub?  If we can live long enough to gaze upon an exquisite specimen like attached (I think), that would be a gift from above!

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28 minutes ago, swolf said:

edit: somehow I goofed up the quote


that’s a real beauty Steve.

 I just went out and measured mine at its fattest and it is 1 inch shy of 3 feet across. I’m hoping that someday I will be able to stand upright and give it the “ Jubea hug”

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Matt in Temecula, CA

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Getting thick on that larger Jub,  please keep posting periodic updates Matt!  Only hybrids on this coast, but they do often benefit from some extra speed.

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Steve

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10 hours ago, TexasColdHardyPalms said:

That is definitely not a butia x parajubaea. 

I think I was hanging on to a thread of hope, since I planted it in a prominent spot, oh well, I love a beautiful Butia as well.

Matt in Temecula, CA

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On 8/16/2020 at 3:43 PM, swolf said:

Getting thick on that larger Jub,  please keep posting periodic updates Matt!  Only hybrids on this coast, but they do often benefit from some extra speed.

Regards,

Steve

Actually found a pic of my fattest Jub from 2008, it has done well  considering the neglect it has endured

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