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A couple of new Schaefer hybrids


Josue Diaz

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Just came across these two phoenix hybrids made by Patrick. They have very soft foliage like roebelenii. Soon to go in the ground!

Phoenix roebelenii x "favorite"

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P. roebelenii x canariensis 

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And allow me to bless your timeline with these exquisite plumeria blooms

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1 minute ago, Josue Diaz said:

Just came across these two phoenix hybrids made by Patrick. They have very soft foliage like roebelenii. Soon to go in the ground!

Phoenix roebelenii x "favorite"

P. roebelenii x canariensis 

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Amazing! How do these look at juvenile and mature stages?

 

5 year high 42.2C/108F (07/06/2018)--5 year low 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)--Lowest recent/current winter: 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)

 

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10 hours ago, GottmitAlex said:

Amazing! How do these look at juvenile and mature stages?

 

 

2 hours ago, necturus said:

Any idea what "favorite" is?

honestly, i don't know either of those things Haha.  I'll just get to see how these develop

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11 hours ago, GottmitAlex said:

Amazing! How do these look at juvenile and mature stages?

Don't know how they'll look but they'll be huggable like the reclinata x theoprasti cross! :P  @Phoenikakias did some lovely Phoenix crosses so I'm betting they'll be nice looking.

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The canary cross is from my male canary...it's not too vertical yet so the pollen is nice and accessible for Patric.

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Ben Rogers

On the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W

My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

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6 hours ago, Fusca said:

Don't know how they'll look but they'll be huggable like the reclinata x theoprasti cross! :P  @Phoenikakias did some lovely Phoenix crosses so I'm betting they'll be nice looking.

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9 hours ago, Fusca said:

Don't know how they'll look but they'll be huggable like the reclinata x theoprasti cross! :P  @Phoenikakias did some lovely Phoenix crosses so I'm betting they'll be nice looking.

Haha i dont know if huggable is the right way to describe any Phoenix lol

9 hours ago, Ben in Norcal said:

The canary cross is from my male canary...it's not too vertical yet so the pollen is nice and accessible for Patric.

No way! so cool to know the heritage of these!

3 hours ago, Phoenikakias said:

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Very nice. Are the leaflets rigid?

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Leaflets of all hybrids with roebelenii as the male progenitor used to have quite flexible leaflets in the early life stages. Conversely the roebelenii x dactylifera hybrid had always seemingly rigid leaflets but their texture until recently was rather tender.  I guess other factor beside age should be growing conditions. A shady and moist place promotes the roebeleniish look.

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I have 3 of these Roe x CIDP. They are very fast, which has to be the canariensis. Interestingly, because of the heavy rains, the most exposed one suffered a spear pull a few months ago, and some insects decided to live inside. After being liberally doused with hydrogen peroxide over several weeks, it got going again. Meanwhile, the unaffected sibling nearly doubled in size. (The third spent most of its time in a pot, being upset about having too little room in 5g, so I put it in the ground a month ago as well.)

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17 hours ago, branislav said:

I have 3 of these Roe x CIDP. They are very fast, which has to be the canariensis. Interestingly, because of the heavy rains, the most exposed one suffered a spear pull a few months ago, and some insects decided to live inside. After being liberally doused with hydrogen peroxide over several weeks, it got going again. Meanwhile, the unaffected sibling nearly doubled in size. (The third spent most of its time in a pot, being upset about having too little room in 5g, so I put it in the ground a month ago as well.)

please, we need pictures!

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11 hours ago, branislav said:

That's the fastest growing one. It's been in the ground since May 2019, from a 1g. 

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Are you entirely sure about its ancestry? Are the leaflets soft textured or leathery?

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2 hours ago, Phoenikakias said:

Are you entirely sure about its ancestry? Are the leaflets soft textured or leathery?

Only insofar that I got it from Patrick labeled as such. To my eye, it's too fast and too robust to have much of any roebelenii in it. The leaflets are smooth on both sides whereas on my roebelenii, they are smooth on the adaxial side but the abaxial ridge is rather leathery. What's your best guess?

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On 6/19/2020 at 8:49 PM, branislav said:

Only insofar that I got it from Patrick labeled as such. To my eye, it's too fast and too robust to have much of any roebelenii in it. The leaflets are smooth on both sides whereas on my roebelenii, they are smooth on the adaxial side but the abaxial ridge is rather leathery. What's your best guess?

Here is my roebelenii x dactylifera hybrid. I think that one can recognize easily both parents in it...

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On 6/26/2020 at 8:05 PM, necturus said:

Here's my P. roebelenii x canariensis. Don't mind the uncut grass or my run down garage. :P

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This looks a lot like my P. roebelenii x canariensis, so I think it's right. (The "droopy" leaves are the result of an insect attack that chewed them up before they fully came out and opened.)

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13 hours ago, 96720 said:

I say you are lucky to get ahold of him to get anything I can never get a response 

You are almost certainly using the wrong e-mail address...if it's the "wildblue" domain, that is incorrect.

Ben Rogers

On the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W

My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

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On 6/16/2020 at 10:13 PM, Josue Diaz said:

Just came across these two phoenix hybrids made by Patrick. They have very soft foliage like roebelenii. Soon to go in the ground!

Phoenix roebelenii x "favorite"

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Josue, I just now noticed the little sign next to the palm!  That's classic!  I'd give you an additional "like" just for that - I already gave you one for the palm!

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9 hours ago, Fusca said:

Josue, I just now noticed the little sign next to the palm!  That's classic!  I'd give you an additional "like" just for that - I already gave you one for the palm!

haha! yeah! My neighbor started making these at the start of the pandemic when everybody went into lockdown. They made all sorts of cool yard signs and they placed dozens of them out on their lawn for neighbors to take. Out whole street has quirky signs like these.

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  • 1 year later...

(ButiaxJubea) x queen un protected 
4 years in the Dallas ground. Survived 3F of 2021. Probably because it’s growth bud was so close to the ground and the snow covering it reflected ground heat to moderate cellular damage. 

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