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Ian Webber

Been trying to identify this cycad ..  Just  wondered if anyone may be able to help

Closest I've found is Encephalartos Sclavoi..  ??

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GDLWyverex
7 hours ago, Ian Webber said:

Been trying to identify this cycad ..  Just  wondered if anyone may be able to help

Closest I've found is Encephalartos Sclavoi..  ??

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From the leaf shape, I am more inclined towards E. Turnerii as an ID

 

Richard

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aztropic

It's a sclavoi. Here's mine to compare.

 

aztropic

Mesa,Arizona

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GDLWyverex
56 minutes ago, aztropic said:

It's a sclavoi. Here's mine to compare.

 

aztropic

Mesa,Arizona

 

 

 

 

Hence; what is mine which I thought was E. sclavoi, which does NOT exhibit the pronounced leaf petal spooning that yours and Ian's does?

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Richard

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aztropic

Richard,yours looks more like a Dioon than Encepholartos,but I'm not a cycad expert.Hopefully someone else can way in with another opinion.

 

aztropic

Mesa,Arizona

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Tracy
1 hour ago, aztropic said:

It's a sclavoi. Here's mine to compare.

There are a lot of similarities between E sclavoi and E turneri, but all turneri have that distinctive cupped "boat shape" leaflet.  I have a couple of different forms of E sclavoi (first two photos).  E. turneri also has a couple of forms.

 

31 minutes ago, GDLWyverex said:

what is mine which I thought was E. sclavoi

Richard, yours could be a sclavoi as well.  Can you provide a photo of the caudex and another of the entire plant.  Looks like it has reverted to the leaflets showing some armor on that latest flush while the older flush seemed like the leaflets only had a terminal barb.

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One form of Encephalartos turneri for comparison.

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GDLWyverex
5 minutes ago, Tracy said:

There are a lot of similarities between E sclavoi and E turneri, but all turneri have that distinctive cupped "boat shape" leaflet.  I have a couple of different forms of E sclavoi (first two photos).  E. turneri also has a couple of forms.

 

Richard, yours could be a sclavoi as well.  Can you provide a photo of the caudex and another of the entire plant.  Looks like it has reverted to the leaflets showing some armor on that latest flush while the older flush seemed like the leaflets only had a terminal barb.

 

 

It's a bit difficult getting good pics, without bleeding to death, as the mother plant as well as some of it's pups are in the throws of flushing. Here is a caudex shot as well as a close of the stems, and a full

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Richard

 

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GDLWyverex
23 minutes ago, Tracy said:

There are a lot of similarities between E sclavoi and E turneri, but all turneri have that distinctive cupped "boat shape" leaflet.  I have a couple of different forms of E sclavoi (first two photos).  E. turneri also has a couple of forms.

 

Richard, yours could be a sclavoi as well.  Can you provide a photo of the caudex and another of the entire plant.  Looks like it has reverted to the leaflets showing some armor on that latest flush while the older flush seemed like the leaflets only had a terminal barb.

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Here's a shot down the center

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Richard

 

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Ian Webber

Hey thanks guys  thats great .  A week after I posted I dug up another and found a tag  . This one  is smaller and similar but without spines on the lower stems. I guess there are variations 

 

 Cheers  Ian

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GeneAZ
On 5/23/2020 at 10:20 AM, Tracy said:

One form of Encephalartos turneri for comparison.

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A superior form at that!

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GeneAZ
On 5/23/2020 at 10:41 AM, GDLWyverex said:

Here's a shot down the center

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Thanks

 

Richard

 

E. altensteinii, IMO.

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GeneAZ
19 hours ago, Ian Webber said:

Hey thanks guys  thats great .  A week after I posted I dug up another and found a tag  . This one  is smaller and similar but without spines on the lower stems. I guess there are variations 

 

 Cheers  Ian

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Nice caudiciforms!

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