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Majesty palm? (At the Nursery uregent)

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Looks like a Hyophorbe to me.

 

 

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5 year high 42.2C/108F (07/06/2018)--5 year low 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)--Lowest recent/current winter: 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)

 

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Looks more like a bottle or spindle

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Lakeland, FL

USDA Zone 1990: 9a  2012: 9b  2023: 10a | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (Jan. 1985, Dec.1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a

30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F

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2 hours ago, Rasta Rob said:

Bottle palm 

yeah i avoided it he wanted around 40 usd for it. cheap or not? 

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13 minutes ago, Palmfarmer said:

yeah i avoided it he wanted around 40 usd for it. cheap or not? 

Not a bad price, but if you are worried about the cold you'd have to perpetually keep this one in a container.

Lakeland, FL

USDA Zone 1990: 9a  2012: 9b  2023: 10a | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (Jan. 1985, Dec.1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a

30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F

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50 minutes ago, kinzyjr said:

Not a bad price, but if you are worried about the cold you'd have to perpetually keep this one in a container.

i will wait untill i get a majesty even though that one looks great also. majesty palms i think should do fine with some canopy here. Royals do fine here without canopy so. 

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26 minutes ago, Palmfarmer said:

i will wait until i get a majesty even though that one looks great also. majesty palms i think should do fine with some canopy here. Royals do fine here without canopy

I'd agree with you about that.  After a night of 27F in Corpus Christi a few years back I noticed all of the local bottle palms were totally fried and the majesties only had slight damage.

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56 minutes ago, Palmfarmer said:

i will wait untill i get a majesty even though that one looks great also. majesty palms i think should do fine with some canopy here. Royals do fine here without canopy so. 

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This picture really cracks me up, man. Growing between two wires with the electrical wires not far ahead. And the electrical company here gets mad when you plant things within 15 feet of the poles.  :laugh2:

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29 minutes ago, necturus said:

This picture really cracks me up, man. Growing between two wires with the electrical wires not far ahead. And the electrical company here gets mad when you plant things within 15 feet of the poles.  :laugh2:

haha yeah there is many trees and palms growing among the electrical wires here

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3 hours ago, Palmfarmer said:

yeah i avoided it he wanted around 40 usd for it. cheap or not? 

Where I live - YES! Very cheap.Where you live;only you can decide.

 

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Mesa,Arizona

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Mesa, Arizona

 

Temps between 29F and 115F each year

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8 hours ago, aztropic said:

Where I live - YES! Very cheap.Where you live;only you can decide.

 

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Mesa,Arizona

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Wow that is not a great price. I’m wondering what our local HD is selling them for. Just a couple years ago, these were $49.

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Location,location,location...Since these are not grown locally,SHIPPING costs have to be added into the final price.If you bought this tree for $49 in FL (which they are) and agreed to ship it out to me,how much would YOU have to charge,just to break even?

I've already done it,using fedex ground,and $80 or more for shipping is what it actually costs.Don't forget to add in the cost of the big box required to ship it,tape,you're time to package and ship,and the fact that the plant WILL get beat up on the 5 day journey.

The price is very fair for THIS area,and we are lucky to have the opportunity to buy one if we want one.

 

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Mesa, Arizona

 

Temps between 29F and 115F each year

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What nurseries charge for larger material around here,and actually get,is mind boggling.There IS a demand for different,unusual palms, but,because supply is VERY limited,high prices prevail.

 

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Mesa,Arizona

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Mesa, Arizona

 

Temps between 29F and 115F each year

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Half price and free delivery? You better jump on that Bismarckia before someone else gets it! You’re definitely right about the location. I can’t get Howeas at any price in Florida. I remember seeing a post here about Cyrtostachys Renda at a Walmart. Of course it was in Hawaii so I guess there was no significant transport cost.

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Half price and free delivery? You better jump on that Bismarckia before someone else gets it!

Went back to the nursery recently and it already sold.They had a dozen to begin with and are now down to 6.

I already had one years before they ever even thought about bringing them into Arizona. Mine is definitely one of the biggest in this state...Still not a very common palm here, although the numbers are growing.

 

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Mesa, Arizona

 

Temps between 29F and 115F each year

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Yours looks great! Very well grown and happy. I just can’t believe people are snapping up palms for $3500. Regardless of scarcity, that’s a lot of money for 1 plant. And from what I’ve heard, Bismarckias don’t transplant well when large so it could be a risky purchase.

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They do guarantee the transplant, but I can't believe they get those kinds of prices either...

The nursery buys them in Florida,transports them here,and sells them at 10X markup at least - and they usually sell out over the summer.That nursery was started in Phoenix,grew to several stores here,and has now expanded into Nevada and California.Multi,multi,million dollar business built by overpriced,high pressure sales in the past,with a huge advertising budget and gimmicks to draw in the crowds.It really does seem to work for them though.

 

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Mesa, Arizona

 

Temps between 29F and 115F each year

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We have that nursery here in Texas. It is a huge rip off.

Bottle palms have came down a lot in price here at the big box stores. They use to be similar in price to yours, but now they are running around $69 for that size. I got one on sale for half that price in last fall. 

I have never priced big Bismarckia, but I have seen ads for huge ones at ridiculously low prices in the RGV. I’m talking a few hundred dollars for 10 feet of trunk. Problem is, you’d have to take a trailer there and back...

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And THAT, is the problem... Location is key to local pricing.If it's available from many,multiple sources and grows easily,locally,the price is much cheaper as each merchant is willing to take a little less to make the sale.Here,nothing exotic is grown locally,commercially,so has to be imported into the state.Transportation and handling fees take their toll...plus,if only 1 nursery is willing to make the effort to import,they can put any price they want on it. Doesn't matter what it sells for elsewhere. They have it here and now, and people will and do pay the asking price to have something a little different from everybody else.

 

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i was able to obtain a Blue camerops 75 cm tall for around 105 usd. For me it sounds like a real steal considering how slow growing they are. what you guys think? 

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On 5/19/2020 at 11:04 PM, aztropic said:

And THAT, is the problem... Location is key to local pricing.If it's available from many,multiple sources and grows easily,locally,the price is much cheaper as each merchant is willing to take a little less to make the sale.Here,nothing exotic is grown locally,commercially,so has to be imported into the state.Transportation and handling fees take their toll...plus,if only 1 nursery is willing to make the effort to import,they can put any price they want on it. Doesn't matter what it sells for elsewhere. They have it here and now, and people will and do pay the asking price to have something a little different from everybody else.

 

aztropic

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So.... I just got back from HD and I see that the prices have gone way up. 15 gallon bottle palm was $109 so not too far off your price. I would not pay that price but maybe others will. 

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Went to Lowe’s and saw these huge coconuts tied up along the fence. At least 10’ to the top 26 gallon pot and nice trunk already started. $169 which I feel is a good price. It just shows that prices can vary wildly even in the same area.

 

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