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Dypsis onilahensis

Josue Diaz

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Josue Diaz

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Second try with onilahensis in Fresno. This time, I'm growing it out in a pot until it's much bigger. My first one burned in the sun and then slowly went into decline.

 

This was a tiny seedling a year ago, fully acclimated to our sun and cold,  I'd say.

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joe_OC Grand Master

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Weeping form can take the heat and cold better.  Yours looks like upright form.

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Huntington Beach, CA

USDA Zone 10a/10b

Sunset Zone 24

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There are a number of forms as Joe points out. I've got ones that are really good growers and others that are so so. Having said that I'm not sure I've paid much attention to how they do inland, or with lots of heat. Centainly worth trying though!

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Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

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Stevetoad

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I have both forms. Upright form is a fast Easy grower for me. The weepy form is an easy grow too but is way slower. Between the 2 I like the weepy best. Mine have seen 110f and 26f. No damage from heat and very little damage in the cold. My weepy is in full sun and my uprights are in shady spots. I’m 18 miles inland. 

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"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

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Gabriel from Upland has a weeping form that looks perfect and seeding.  Like Steve's experience, it has seen temp extremes.  Jerry Andersen had several weeping forms at his old nursery in Fallbrook in full sun.  I have both.  Upright form from Louie Hooper grows in part sun while weeping grows in full sun.

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Josue Diaz Grand Master

Josue Diaz

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Hmm, that's interesting. The previous one I tried appeared to be the weeping form (it came from Perry in Grover Beach). I think I may not have acclimated it well enough before putting it out in the elements, and I'm pretty certain that was a big factor in it dying. This one is from Kevin in Lake Elsinore. Maybe I'll grab another of Perry's weeping onilahensis and compare. 

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redant Grand Master

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Mine in FL just sat in the ground for years doing nothing until it just died. 

Jupiter FL

in the Zone formally known as 10A

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I don't know the difference... is this one weeping or upright form? It's never once shown any signs of stress here in Riverside... up to 112, down to 29 (ish). 

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Dave

 

Riverside, CA Z 9b

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approx 40 miles inland

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I really love the weeping form but I couldn't get them to survive for me. My sweltering climate is too much for them - as is the case with many Dypsis spp.

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Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

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1 hour ago, PalmatierMeg said:

I really love the weeping form but I couldn't get them to survive for me. My sweltering climate is too much for them - as is the case with many Dypsis spp.

Some seem to do fine but yeah lots just hate FL

Jupiter FL

in the Zone formally known as 10A

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Ben in Norcal

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These are bulletproof up here, both forms.  110+ no issue, 30 no issue.  Just give them some shade in our extreme heat. 

Everything in the baronii complex is a must-have for the Bay Area!

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Ben Rogers

On the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W

My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

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23 hours ago, joe_OC said:

Gabriel from Upland has a weeping form that looks perfect and seeding.  Like Steve's experience, it has seen temp extremes. 

Here you go Joe. 

First two pictures are of my Oni at my house. Second two are of the oni at my parent's house a couple miles south of me. 

Please don't let me fool anyone. I have had several onies die on me, mostly in pots, but one 15 gallon size in the ground also. I have seen a lot variance in their ability to  take sun. I tried acclimating the aforementioned deceased 15 gallon for to years before planting it. I even have a bunch of small seedlings from my parent's tree that seem to be showing different levels of sun tolerance. The two plants featured below have loved full sun since the day I planted them.  At my place sun requirements seem to be the major factor over cold tolerance. 

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12 hours ago, doubravsky said:

I don't know the difference... is this one weeping or upright form? It's never once shown any signs of stress here in Riverside... up to 112, down to 29 (ish). 

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Weeping, boo hoo hoo hoo (urk) . . . .

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4 minutes ago, Sr. Califas said:

Here you go Joe. 

First two pictures are of my Oni at my house. Second two are of the oni at my parent's house a couple miles south of me. 

Please don't let me fool anyone. I have had several onies die on me, mostly in pots, but one 15 gallon size in the ground also. I have seen a lot variance in their ability to  take sun. I tried acclimating the aforementioned deceased 15 gallon for to years before planting it. I even have a bunch of small seedlings from my parent's tree that seem to be showing different levels of sun tolerance. The two plants featured below have loved full sun since the day I planted them.  At my place sun requirements seem to be the major factor over cold tolerance. 

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A to die-for, cry-for weeper. They're a lot tougher than the other kind. Different species, botanists go ahead and slap me.

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On 5/6/2020 at 6:49 PM, Josue Diaz said:

Second try with onilahensis in Fresno. This time, I'm growing it out in a pot until it's much bigger. My first one burned in the sun and then slowly went into decline.

 

This was a tiny seedling a year ago, fully acclimated to our sun and cold,  I'd say.

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Did you get those from Kevin Weaver?

I got a bunch that look like that.

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8 hours ago, Ben in Norcal said:

These are bulletproof up here, both forms.  110+ no issue, 30 no issue.  Just give them some shade in our extreme heat. 

Everything in the baronii complex is a must-have for the Bay Area!

I agree with you, Ben. I'm inland from you and ~170 miles north of Josue in Fresno, and mine (orig. from Phil/JM) survived this past (mild) winter. It gets significant overstory shade year-round. There was some minimal leaf spotting. I'm hoping mine is a bit weepy! Try yours in the ground Josue!

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LJG Grand Master

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I would hit it with chelated iron. Bet is greens up quickly after. These are plateau plants and come from iron rich areas.

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Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

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Just picked this guy up from florabunda and put it in ground. The white is already blinding ( one of my new favorite). Please update us on yours in the future 

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Lovely! I wish Jeff Marcus could open a second nursery in Puerto Rico...

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19 hours ago, DoomsDave said:

Did you get those from Kevin Weaver?

I got a bunch that look like that.

Yeah! i got this and one other from Kevin. 

19 hours ago, Hillizard said:

I agree with you, Ben. I'm inland from you and ~170 miles north of Josue in Fresno, and mine (orig. from Phil/JM) survived this past (mild) winter. It gets significant overstory shade year-round. There was some minimal leaf spotting. I'm hoping mine is a bit weepy! Try yours in the ground Josue!

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Maybe i will then. And like @LJG said I'll add some iron to green it up

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On 5/7/2020 at 8:46 PM, Sr. Califas said:

Here you go Joe. 

First two pictures are of my Oni at my house. Second two are of the oni at my parent's house a couple miles south of me. 

Please don't let me fool anyone. I have had several onies die on me, mostly in pots, but one 15 gallon size in the ground also. I have seen a lot variance in their ability to  take sun. I tried acclimating the aforementioned deceased 15 gallon for to years before planting it. I even have a bunch of small seedlings from my parent's tree that seem to be showing different levels of sun tolerance. The two plants featured below have loved full sun since the day I planted them.  At my place sun requirements seem to be the major factor over cold tolerance. 

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Both plants are beautiful but that second one at your parent's place is essentially perfection.  

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Speaking of Onilahensis......today I went to my local Green Thumb nursery. Usually the only Dypsis you will find there are lutescens and decaryi. Much to my surprise they had these two 15 gallon Dypsis onilahensis. No, they aren’t the weeping variety but what the heck. They were selling for $119.99. I had a couple coupons so I got $10 off one and 20% off the other.

For comparison, they had same size lutescens going for $199.99. Go figure.

 

Plant 1.

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I love the Green Thumb on Victoria Avenue in Ventura, and always stop by on my SoCal road trips !   Great score !

San Francisco, California

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2 hours ago, Darold Petty said:

I love the Green Thumb on Victoria Avenue in Ventura, and always stop by on my SoCal road trips !   Great score !

That’s the one. :)

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This is mine . It’s 12 years old from seed and has been planted out for 10 years. It’s a little over 3m tall and has been producing infertile seeds for about 5 years.

 

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El Oasis - beach garden, distinct wet/dry season ,year round 20-38c

Las Heliconias - jungle garden ,800m elevation,150+ inches rainfall, year round 15-28c

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