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My Chambeyronea Houailou threw a new leaf to herald the day of sunshine

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Aren’t they great palms?  Another one of my favorites.

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My Chambeyronea Houailou threw a new leaf to herald the day of sunshine

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Me loves it. :wub:

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Me loves it. :wub:

Me too! I've got two of them.

They're slow here, though I've got some babies coming along.

This one is finally putting out pretty new leaves. The other one hasn't started yet, still plain green.

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Here’s the aforementioned smaller specimen 

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Here’s some shots of the one in the first pictures full Monty as they say.

It’s about six feet overall.

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And a wholly gratuitous shot of a hookeri family 2691EC6D-C6B2-4F45-A090-BEB09891900C.thumb.jpeg.2124dc31d2e4e6dd230119c196850b7f.jpegright nearby

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Oh yeah...I love C houailou!  My oldest one is from Jerry Anderson.  He had it in his greenhouse when he was in Fallbrook.  It took several years to acclimate and shrank A LOT but is looking really good now.  Pic is of my oldest one and newest one (front palm) that will be planted next to it.  

 

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The other one hasn't started yet, still plain green.

Dave you are underselling it.  Look at the bluish tint to that newest leaf which is part of the charm of this variant of Chambeyronia.  While it may not be showing any pink tints yet when throwing a new frond, it still has a different color than you would see on hookeri, and completely different than the deep green of a "regular" macrocarpa leaf which starts out with the classic "flame thrower" color.  Besides as you well know the stellar thing about C houailou is the structure of the palm and thicker more rigid leaves than it's fellow family members.  While I hate to pick favorites, this is definitely a species I would select if I had only a handful of palms I could keep in my garden.  Yours look very happy.  If I had room for another, I would have been sending you a pm about your inventory, to see if any were available for sale.  Great palm!

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Here’s the aforementioned smaller specimen 

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Here’s the new leaf today

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And feet away 

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Ah, fall in love every time I walk out the door . . . .

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Dave,

Hope you don’t mind me dropping a few photos of my hookerii on your thread. I just took these pics this morning and am just too excited to contain myself.

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Dave,

Hope you don’t mind me dropping a few photos of my hookerii on your thread. I just took these pics this morning and am just too excited to contain myself.

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Very nice.  Hookeri have the best red fronds!

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Hoping my lil hookeri puts out its first red leaf under my care =) Do yall notice if the red shows more in filtered light ? They definitely grow faster with more sun ! 

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Here’s hookeri again

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Super beautiful. 
Although the Houailou doesn’t get the red leaf like your hookerii, they are so beautiful. 
I hope my tiny seedling can one day look like yours. 

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Super beautiful. 
Although the Houailou doesn’t get the red leaf like your hookerii, they are so beautiful. 
I hope my tiny seedling can one day look like yours. 

Patience! Mine are both about 20 years in the ground.

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Any day now. Of course, it feels like I’ve been telling myself that for a long time. 

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When red leaves turn green quickly 

in winter slower and you can get 7 or 8 all red at once!

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Patience! Mine are both about 20 years in the ground.

More like 10 years eeek

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Where is the most reliable source to obtain Ch Houailu?

Floribunda has them right now.

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Floribunda has them right now.

Where I got mine small pricey and slow but worth it

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@branislav!

So good to see you!

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@branislav!

So good to see you!

Oh, I am here -- and enjoying all the photos you post! I am in the garden every day. Finished wiring the green house too, just in time to unpack a shipment from Floribunda, which includes 2 Houailou to add to the 3 I have in the yard. I love this palm.

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Oh, I am here -- and enjoying all the photos you post! I am in the garden every day. Finished wiring the green house too, just in time to unpack a shipment from Floribunda, which includes 2 Houailou to add to the 3 I have in the yard. I love this palm.

When we’re out of captivity come visit 

and I’ll show you 

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Here’s another picture of my hookeri 

Have to cover my mouth every time I walk by to stop screaming obscenities 

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Any day now. Of course, it feels like I’ve been telling myself that for a long time. 

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On 4/19/2020 at 7:10 PM, Jeff985 said:

Any day now. Of course, it feels like I’ve been telling myself that for a long time. 

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Nice palm! You have that in full sun in Houston?

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Nice palm! You have that in full sun in Houston?

It’s in filtered sun. There are two oaks nearby. Also I’m really close to Galveston bay so the humidity is like a billion percent, so I think that helps. 

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It’s in filtered sun. There are two oaks nearby. Also I’m really close to Galveston bay so the humidity is like a billion percent, so I think that helps. 

Be prepared to protect it in a Blue Norther.

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Be prepared to protect it in a Blue Norther.

Can anyone speak to the actual hardiness. Palmpedia says the chambeyronia macrocarpa, once established is hardy to 20 degrees. If that’s the case this thing should be bulletproof. The last time it got below 20 at my house was 1989. But I’ve read on this forum people have said they had one die at 29 degrees. If that’s the case, it’ll be lucky to make it 5 years. 

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Can anyone speak to the actual hardiness. Palmpedia says the chambeyronia macrocarpa, once established is hardy to 20 degrees. If that’s the case this thing should be bulletproof. The last time it got below 20 at my house was 1989. But I’ve read on this forum people have said they had one die at 29 degrees. If that’s the case, it’ll be lucky to make it 5 years. 

This is a good place to look (click on Chambeyronia macrocarpa).  It's anecdotal, but still a good reference point.

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Can anyone speak to the actual hardiness. Palmpedia says the chambeyronia macrocarpa, once established is hardy to 20 degrees. If that’s the case this thing should be bulletproof. The last time it got below 20 at my house was 1989. But I’ve read on this forum people have said they had one die at 29 degrees. If that’s the case, it’ll be lucky to make it 5 years. 

Sometimes Blue Northers get into the teens. If that happens Chambey is toast, alas.

I sincerely doubt they're hardy to 20 F, based on my own (thank heaven limited) observations. You hit about 26 or 27 and there's obvious damage. BUT, you might get a good many years anyway.

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Sometimes Blue Northers get into the teens. If that happens Chambey is toast, alas.

I sincerely doubt they're hardy to 20 F, based on my own (thank heaven limited) observations. You hit about 26 or 27 and there's obvious damage. BUT, you might get a good many years anyway.

If we get into the teens pretty much everything I have will be gone. Last time that happened was 31 years ago, so maybe that means we’re due. Maybe it means that nonsense is behind us. Only time will tell. 

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I lost a few chambeyronias that year with lows of 24 for a few days. I’ve not seen any damage in later years down to 29 at times... 

 

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Riverside, CA Z 9b

1700 ft. elevation

approx 40 miles inland

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