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Guess That Genus


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There are 8 genera of palms represented in this photo. How many can you get? One will be near impossible because it's an odd hybrid.

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Longview, Texas :: Record Low: -5F, Feb. 16, 2021 :: Borderline 8A/8B :: '06-'07: 18F / '07-'08: 21F / '08-'09: 21F / '09-'10: 14F / '10-'11: 15F / '11-'12: 24F / '12-'13: 23F / '13-'14: 15F / '14-'15: 20F / '15-'16: 27F / '16-'17: 15F / '17-'18: 8F / '18-'19: 23F / '19-'20: 19F / '20-'21: -5F / '21-'22: 20F / '22-'23: 6F

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Chamarhops humilis ( green)

Butia x Sygarus Rom (mule)

Washingtonia Filibusta 

Allagoptera Arenaria x ?

Phoenix Dactylifera (suckering?)

Butia Archeri x Sygarus Romanzoffiana ?

Butia Lallemantii 

Chamarhops humilis (cerifera)

 

Hesperia,Southern CA (High Desert area). Zone 8b

Elevation; about 3600 ft.

Lowest temp. I can expect each year 19/20*f lowest since I've been growing palms *13(2007) Hottest temp. Each year *106

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Good guesses folks. Here's what's out there:

Trithrinax (T. campestris)

Polyandrococos (Butia odorata x Polyandrococos caudescens)

Butia (B. matogrossensis)

Chamaerops (C. humilis)

Washingtonia (W. x filibusta)

Sabal (S. 'Riverside')

Syagrus (S. campylospatha and Butia odorata x S. romanzoffiana)

Allagoptera (A. arenaria)

And I just noticed a ninth:

Serenoa repens

Longview, Texas :: Record Low: -5F, Feb. 16, 2021 :: Borderline 8A/8B :: '06-'07: 18F / '07-'08: 21F / '08-'09: 21F / '09-'10: 14F / '10-'11: 15F / '11-'12: 24F / '12-'13: 23F / '13-'14: 15F / '14-'15: 20F / '15-'16: 27F / '16-'17: 15F / '17-'18: 8F / '18-'19: 23F / '19-'20: 19F / '20-'21: -5F / '21-'22: 20F / '22-'23: 6F

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Do you have any pictures of the BxPolyandrococos alone? Were any/all of these in ground for the '17-'18 winter?

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That's a fun game! 

Amazing collection. Palmpedia says the B. matogrossensis is 9b so I am glad to see you're growing these. Similarly, I would not have expected Allagoptera arenaria in 8a. Never even heard of the Polyandrococos hybrid. Dang! 

Do you protect them a lot?

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2 hours ago, Swolte said:

I would not have expected Allagoptera arenaria in 8a.

I have a multi (3) one of these that saw 20° plus freezing rain unprotected for 36hrs in 2018 It showed no damage what so ever , very leaf hardy. I'm very happy with this palm =) 

T J 

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The Allagoptera seem to come back from most anything. They'll get full burn under 20F. The Polyandrococos hybrid looks like a dwarf Butia right now. Not much unique character yet. My favorite dwarf is the S. campylospatha. Check out my Kashmir Mazari. Its awesome. 8 feet tall. And a stretchy S. 'Riverside'.

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Longview, Texas :: Record Low: -5F, Feb. 16, 2021 :: Borderline 8A/8B :: '06-'07: 18F / '07-'08: 21F / '08-'09: 21F / '09-'10: 14F / '10-'11: 15F / '11-'12: 24F / '12-'13: 23F / '13-'14: 15F / '14-'15: 20F / '15-'16: 27F / '16-'17: 15F / '17-'18: 8F / '18-'19: 23F / '19-'20: 19F / '20-'21: -5F / '21-'22: 20F / '22-'23: 6F

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1 minute ago, OC2Texaspalmlvr said:

Wow that does look like a stretched out Riverside 

I would of expected more girth 

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I highly recommend all the dwarf South America cocoids for the 8A folks. They're pretty easy to protect with a moving blanket.

It's strange that the Riverside is so stretched. It gets full sun for a good chunk of the day.

Longview, Texas :: Record Low: -5F, Feb. 16, 2021 :: Borderline 8A/8B :: '06-'07: 18F / '07-'08: 21F / '08-'09: 21F / '09-'10: 14F / '10-'11: 15F / '11-'12: 24F / '12-'13: 23F / '13-'14: 15F / '14-'15: 20F / '15-'16: 27F / '16-'17: 15F / '17-'18: 8F / '18-'19: 23F / '19-'20: 19F / '20-'21: -5F / '21-'22: 20F / '22-'23: 6F

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6 minutes ago, RJ said:

I would of expected more girth 

I've always expected S.Riverside to be skinnier but faster then most Sabals 

T J 

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It suffered from scale when it was young, but has gotten healthier and healthier as it gotten bigger.

Longview, Texas :: Record Low: -5F, Feb. 16, 2021 :: Borderline 8A/8B :: '06-'07: 18F / '07-'08: 21F / '08-'09: 21F / '09-'10: 14F / '10-'11: 15F / '11-'12: 24F / '12-'13: 23F / '13-'14: 15F / '14-'15: 20F / '15-'16: 27F / '16-'17: 15F / '17-'18: 8F / '18-'19: 23F / '19-'20: 19F / '20-'21: -5F / '21-'22: 20F / '22-'23: 6F

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Wow, that Nannorrhops is awesome! How old is it? Your stretch out Riverside looks sweet! It kinda resembles a Mexicana to me. Riverside's are pretty hefty but I've never seen one that size. Still could put alot of mass on :greenthumb: 

 

 

Hesperia,Southern CA (High Desert area). Zone 8b

Elevation; about 3600 ft.

Lowest temp. I can expect each year 19/20*f lowest since I've been growing palms *13(2007) Hottest temp. Each year *106

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10 hours ago, OC2Texaspalmlvr said:

I've always expected S.Riverside to be skinnier but faster then most Sabals 

I always thought it would be beefier like a s. mexicana . It supposedly has domengensis in it, a rather large sabal in itself. I’ve got a small one in a 3 gal, hard to tell what it’s going to do at that size. 
 

compliments of palmpedia

 

 

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1 hour ago, RJ said:

I always thought it would be beefier like a s. mexicana . It supposedly has domengensis in it, a rather large sabal in itself. I’ve got a small one in a 3 gal, hard to tell what it’s going to do at that size. 

That's the pic that prompted me to get one. Been in the ground not quite a year I'll try to get pics of it after work. Of course like most hybrids size can be variable haha 

T J 

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I didn't see a tag anywhere on this one but I think it's a Sabal Riverside, near the San Diego zoo entrance. Its pretty beefy in person.20200409_140455.thumb.jpg.e8b430d4685540a1493f812c5523de27.jpg

 

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Hesperia,Southern CA (High Desert area). Zone 8b

Elevation; about 3600 ft.

Lowest temp. I can expect each year 19/20*f lowest since I've been growing palms *13(2007) Hottest temp. Each year *106

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On 4/8/2020 at 8:06 PM, James760 said:

Wow, that Nannorrhops is awesome! How old is it? Your stretch out Riverside looks sweet! It kinda resembles a Mexicana to me. Riverside's are pretty hefty but I've never seen one that size. Still could put alot of mass on :greenthumb: 

I want to say its about 10 years old.  It took some abuse at 8 F, but it never skipped a beat. 

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Longview, Texas :: Record Low: -5F, Feb. 16, 2021 :: Borderline 8A/8B :: '06-'07: 18F / '07-'08: 21F / '08-'09: 21F / '09-'10: 14F / '10-'11: 15F / '11-'12: 24F / '12-'13: 23F / '13-'14: 15F / '14-'15: 20F / '15-'16: 27F / '16-'17: 15F / '17-'18: 8F / '18-'19: 23F / '19-'20: 19F / '20-'21: -5F / '21-'22: 20F / '22-'23: 6F

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