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Sabal palmetto in zone 7a Bridgeport CT


DrZnaturally

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Hi, Im the owner of the Sabal palmetto in Bridgeport CT zone 7a, outside since 2009

 

i started the seedling from a seed i got at my mom in laws in Sun city Center Florida

the Sabal has survived brutal winters

 

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Yes I actually saw that video on Youtube before here.  It looks great.  I planted out 2 small ones here and they are not doing too great.  

YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@tntropics - 60+ In-ground 7A palms - (Sabal) minor(7 large + 27 seedling size, 3 dwarf),  brazoria(1) , birmingham(4), etonia (1) louisiana(5), palmetto (1), riverside (1),  (Trachycarpus) fortunei(7), wagnerianus(1),  Rhapidophyllum hystrix(7),  15' Mule-Butia x Syagrus(1),  Blue Butia capitata(1) +Tons of tropical plants.  Recent Yearly Lows -1F, 12F, 11F, 18F, 16F, 3F, 3F, 6F, 3F, 1F, 16F, 17F, 6F, 8F

 

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is it close to a building?

 

i think my pam does well because

 

1. Close to Long island sound, the warmest part of CT

2. In a brick corner

3.The brick is dark

4.Someone pointed out the the air conditioner is near the photo, which means that behind the palm inside the building is a BASEMENT ROOM,

heat rises, so, that heat could leak from the foundation and keep the ground from freezing; Indeed many years of probing the area before planting the plm in 2009 revealed a frost free zone of 18 inches from the foundation of the building

5.I mummy wrap the palm as discussed in Dr Franko's book

PALMS WON'T GROW HERE AND OTHER MYTHS

 

In the book, he discusses a man in zone 6B Tennessee having success with large Sabal palmettos (6-8 feet of trunk but in a really specialized microclimate

 

take care,

 

DrZ

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I remember seeing about 4 sabals in Hendersonville, TN that were out in the open along with some needle palms. Sadly, they were all taken out by renovations to the area. I dont really see sabal palmettos havingtoo many problems south of I-40. But you get a ton of freezing nights which can be problematic.

Palms - 4 S. romanzoffiana, 1 W. bifurcata, 2 W. robusta, 1 R. rivularis, 1 B. odorata, 1 B. nobilis, 2 S. palmetto, 1 A. merillii, 1 P. canariensis, 1 BxJ, 1 BxJxBxS, 1 BxS, 3 P. roebelenii, 1 H. lagenicaulis, 1 H. verschaffeltii, 9 T. fortunei, 1 C. humilis, 2 C. macrocarpa, 1 L. chinensis, 1 R. excelsa

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7 hours ago, DrZnaturally said:

4.Someone pointed out the the air conditioner is near the photo, which means that behind the palm inside the building is a BASEMENT ROOM,

heat rises, so, that heat could leak from the foundation and keep the ground from freezing; Indeed many years of probing the area before planting the plm in 2009 revealed a frost free zone of 18 inches from the foundation of the building

Welcome to the forum!

I'm the one who mentioned the basement room. I'll also mention that while hot air rises, heat radiates equally in all directions so the warmth from the heated room that's about 1/2 below ground level is keeping the soil above freezing just below ground level even during the coldest winters even if a thin  layer of soil might freeze at ground level.  Additionally, snow is a good insulator so if the walk is cleared and snow piled near the base of the palm that would also help keep the ground from freezing deep by holding the heat from the room in the soil below. The snow as an insulator works somewhat like insulation in your attic keeping the warmth trapped below.

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On 4/5/2020 at 2:14 PM, JLM said:

I remember seeing about 4 sabals in Hendersonville, TN that were out in the open along with some needle palms. Sadly, they were all taken out by renovations to the area. I dont really see sabal palmettos havingtoo many problems south of I-40. But you get a ton of freezing nights which can be problematic.

 

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On 4/5/2020 at 8:51 PM, NOT A TA said:

Welcome to the forum!

I'm the one who mentioned the basement room. I'll also mention that while hot air rises, heat radiates equally in all directions so the warmth from the heated room that's about 1/2 below ground level is keeping the soil above freezing just below ground level even during the coldest winters even if a thin  layer of soil might freeze at ground level.  Additionally, snow is a good insulator so if the walk is cleared and snow piled near the base of the palm that would also help keep the ground from freezing deep by holding the heat from the room in the soil below. The snow as an insulator works somewhat like insulation in your attic keeping the warmth trapped below.

thanks great to be in the forum here's the unveiling of the palm march 2020

 

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