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Is there such a thing as blue/silver coloured feather palms?


KentiaPalm

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I tried googling this and to no avail.

The only thing I can think of is Pindo Palms but they are slightly green,

but I’m thinking more like bismarckia’s blue.

anyone know ? 

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I have a blue pindo.  It”s supposed to be a blue pindoxjubaea. But I think it is primarily pindo..  A Florida person on eBay sells some but buy warily.

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38 minutes ago, KentiaPalm said:

I tried googling this and to no avail.

The only thing I can think of is Pindo Palms but they are slightly green,

but I’m thinking more like bismarckia’s blue.

anyone know ? 

Butia and Jubaea are the only pinnate palms with bluish color that I am aware of - at least for cold hardy palms.  And only some show this trait.

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Thanks for the correct nomenclature Fusca “pinnate” what about tropical varieties?

look at this Jubaea x Butia hybrid 

gorgeous

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I don't know of any tropical varieties.  I just remembered that Phoenix dactylifera and theophrasti can also have bluish color.  This theophrasti at Kopsick is the closest that I have ever seen to the color of Bismarckia:

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Some of the smaller Syagrus species are somewhat blue also.  Syagrus campylopatha is another example - photo courtesy of Palmpedia:

 

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Jon Sunder

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11 hours ago, Fusca said:

I don't know of any tropical varieties.  I just remembered that Phoenix dactylifera and theophrasti can also have bluish color.  This theophrasti at Kopsick is the closest that I have ever seen to the color of Bismarckia:

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That's just stunning! I can die now.

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Arenga Engleri and Arenga Micrantha both have green tops and very silver bottoms on the leaves.  Some types of Phoenix Sylvestris are also very blue, but don't quite reach the silver-white of a really good Bismarck.

You can sort of see the silvery-white undersides on Micrantha here:

https://www.rarepalmseeds.com/arenga-micrantha

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Oraniopsis appendiculata and some Orania species can sometimes have a silver underside of the leaves. But nothing like Bismarckia.

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I believe that in many "blue" palms, the coloration is the result of a waxy coating that serves to protect the leaves from extreme cold (silver Bismarckia & blue Jubaea are coldhardier than green ones) or harsh sun (Coccothrinax Azul, Phoenix spp) and dessication from weather extremes. I also believe more palmate species by far can tolerate/survive weather extremes than can any pinnate palm. 

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On 2/24/2020 at 4:58 PM, PalmatierMeg said:

I believe that in many "blue" palms, the coloration is the result of a waxy coating that serves to protect the leaves from extreme cold...

In the general plant world, the cuticle serves to protect against drought, as with succulent and cactus species. I never thought of it as a protection against cold, but that makes sense.

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