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Parajubaea Torallyi vs Butia x ParajubaeaTorallyi, girth?

dub671

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Have a number of planted out pure parajubaea torallyis that I placed in anticipation of their ridiculous girth. Anybody happen to know if Butia x Parajubaea Torallyis also get that yuuuuugge? Trying to squeeze it into a 40 inch wide space.....

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39 minutes ago, dub671 said:

Have a number of planted out pure parajubaea torallyis that I placed in anticipation of their ridiculous girth. Anybody happen to know if Butia x Parajubaea Torallyis also get that yuuuuugge? Trying to squeeze it into a 40 inch wide space.....

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you have some of the hyrbids?

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Hi DD.

I have four of the regular PJ toryallis planted around the yard. All were 15gallon sizes. I have just one of Patric's B x PJT (was a liner when i got it) that I'm trying to place now that the hardscaping is finally complete. 

The mules, J x S, and B x PJ sunkha are also all finally in the ground. Now if they would just hurry up and grow.

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I think this is a more recent cross, so I doubt anyone knows. However, judging from the size of Patric's plants in liners, I'd bet the BxPJT are gonna be big. I don't know about yours, but mine are arrived two or three times as wide as BxPJS.

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@dub671 I like your taste in palms gonna be a great looking garden one day. With some real statement palms =) JxS being hands down my fav hybrid :yay:

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@necturus - Yeah, figured I'd ask the collective and see if there were lurkers that have had these things in the ground for some time. My BxPJT was a quite a bit thicker as a liner than the BxPJS I received. But the BxPJS went in the ground first (7 months ago and still not pinnate) but has thickened up to nearly the size of the BxPJT. Will just take a chance and put it in the ground and hope it doesn't bust up the hardscaping.

@OC2Texaspalmlvr- The JxS is hands down my FAV by far and is the most money i've spent on a palm! it was a decent sized 7gallon when i received it with a fat base, been in the ground 10 months, and has already put on 2 ft in height! If only dypsis decipiens grew that fast. Trying to fill the yard with monsters.

 

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@dub671 wow a 7g JxS that's awesome but I'm sure a pretty penny haha Definitely well worth it tho imo. Cant wait to see your garden in 5years or so :greenthumb:

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On 2/19/2020 at 9:37 AM, dub671 said:

Hi DD.

I have four of the regular PJ toryallis planted around the yard. All were 15gallon sizes. I have just one of Patric's B x PJT (was a liner when i got it) that I'm trying to place now that the hardscaping is finally complete. 

The mules, J x S, and B x PJ sunkha are also all finally in the ground. Now if they would just hurry up and grow.

E.

I’d plan on anything crossed with Parajubaea tor tor to get huge like 3 feet or1 M across at least 

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These may be the biggest B xPJT alive, at Patrick’s. Middle picture obviously the left tree not the Trachycarpus Ukhrulensis.  3ft trunk about accurate. Maybe too late Hope you didn’t plant in a 40” inch space they do get huge!

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This is interesting. Would these hybrids produce edible fruit like P.Torallyi?

Would they be slower growing or faster?

Would they have increased disease resistance which seems to be the kypronite for PJT in Socal?

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3 hours ago, James B said:

This is interesting. Would these hybrids produce edible fruit like P.Torallyi?

Would they be slower growing or faster?

Would they have increased disease resistance which seems to be the kypronite for PJT in Socal?

I’m not sure about the fruit.  They are fast growing although mine are smaller they are fast compared to others. And I would think the resistance would be higher with butia genes and hybrid vigor. I think the real winner is Butia x Parajubaea Sunkha, a colder and wetter natural habitat (higher elevation) I have a 5 ft Sunkha hybrid and it outgrows and stays greens through cold/wet better than many other hybrids. It’s a really nice one. 

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On 6/5/2022 at 2:14 PM, NWpalms@206 said:

These may be the biggest B xPJT alive, at Patrick’s. Middle picture obviously the left tree not the Trachycarpus Ukhrulensis.  3ft trunk about accurate. Maybe too late Hope you didn’t plant in a 40” inch space they do get huge!

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I was kindly corrected that these palms of Patrick’s are actually BxPJC not PJT. BxPJT actually slightly larger girth than these. Pretty impressive stuff. 

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On 6/6/2022 at 7:56 PM, NWpalms@206 said:

I was kindly corrected that these palms of Patrick’s are actually BxPJC not PJT. BxPJT actually slightly larger girth than these. Pretty impressive stuff. 

I was wondering bxpjt is relatively new cross compared to bxpjc. The bxpjc at Dick Douglas’s former house must be huge now, it was close to those pictured probably 10 years ago. (I can’t recall what year he passed of the top of my head) 

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