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My Coconut Died :(

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Well I guess the predictions came true. My coconut was not able to even survive half way through the winter. My best guess was that it just didn’t get enough warmth for too long to survive. Every 2 weeks a leaf would turn brown and this continued until the plant was no more. Also when I was getting rid of it, the whole plant separated from the nut. Does this sound consistent with a chilly coconut? I also wanted to keep the wooden part of the nut and see what was inside and what’s inside is pretty interesting.26461A42-FFBF-4E36-A15B-C577A9E7EE96.thumb.jpeg.c4d4cbd4b4ade8554b4494f982cd2848.jpegA2A14A5A-F6F2-40B7-93B2-06B39CD40ACC.thumb.jpeg.0c01b77b34832ec5b67cb56e5b15e0c9.jpeg RIP Coco 2019-2020

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Those things are sensitive to cold weather.  I almost lost a potted 8 ft coco when exposed temporarily to 26F.  They also don’t like persistent temps below 50F

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Just now, PlantDad said:

Where were u overwintering it?

Next to a heater and a south facing window on the first floor. Our house is, in my opinion, colder than average, but only around 60-65 degrees, not too low.

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Just now, jimmyt said:

Those things are sensitive to cold weather.

Very sensitive apparently. One thing that I noticed was some root rot, but I'm not sure if this happened before or after the plant died.

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Coconuts need high heat ( 80F, preferably 90F+) and tons of light and/or sunlight. Long periods of cool temps, i.e., 60-65F, in a dark, dry northern house will kill it. It was telling you so while you watched it die one leaf at a time. For the next one try to keep it under a grow light in a place that stays above 80 during with humidity over 50-60% during the day. Coconuts make poor houseplants.

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I have had better luck with coconuts in the North, than other, more commonly available palms.  In the house, I  cannot seem to succeed with Majesty palms or even Christmas palms (Adonidia), although my Majesty overwintered in a chilly garage seems to succeed.  The common 'Areca palm' (Dypsis l.) is another one that is hard to overwinter for me..., can't keep up with their watering and sun needs. My coconut, I overwinter in a warm basement under florescent lights and temps ranging from 70-78 degees.  It's warm and humid down there.  May not be the easiest for the average home, but there are others out there that are even worse. From some time in Spring till Autumn, all the palms go outside.  Coconuts, need full, unobstructed SUN, and I think it helps with the overwintering.

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20 hours ago, clevelandtropicsmaybe said:

Next to a heater and a south facing window on the first floor. Our house is, in my opinion, colder than average, but only around 60-65 degrees, not too low.

That consistent cooler temp is probably what did it. 

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My majesty palm does fine under the same conditions. I don’t really have a big budget for overwintering palms so I think I might look at some fan palms. I am interested in Mediterranean and Mexican fan palms but those are very hard to find in Ohio.

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"I am interested in Mediterranean and Mexican fan palms but those are very hard to find in Ohio."

Washingtonias are ridiculously cheap and EASY to grow from seed.  There are on line sources for the seed.  I LOVE my Washingtonias! I bought a bunch of them several years ago as they were being sold in local supermarket, but I have also grown them from seed (but you're right, they are not that available).  Probably because they don't make the best "indoor" palms.  They grow fast, are quite prickly and take up SPACE! Mine are in tubs that overwinter in a big garage then go outside (from March 1st till December 1st). I prefer Washingtonia robusta and the hybrid filibuster..., W. filifera is better for drier climates, these recent humidity and excessive rains There are lots of palms that you can grow in your chilly conditions though! Kentia (Howea), Rhapis (Lady Palms), Livistona (Chinese fan palms), Queen palms (Syagrus), even Chamaedorea (bamboo palms) are quite chill tolerant.  Mediterranean fans are another species that I just don't see as "houseplants", too prickly.

 
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On 2/19/2020 at 2:41 PM, oasis371 said:

"I am interested in Mediterranean and Mexican fan palms but those are very hard to find in Ohio."

Washingtonias are ridiculously cheap and EASY to grow from seed.  There are on line sources for the seed.  I LOVE my Washingtonias! I bought a bunch of them several years ago as they were being sold in local supermarket, but I have also grown them from seed (but you're right, they are not that available).  Probably because they don't make the best "indoor" palms.  They grow fast, are quite prickly and take up SPACE! Mine are in tubs that overwinter in a big garage then go outside (from March 1st till December 1st). I prefer Washingtonia robusta and the hybrid filibuster..., W. filifera is better for drier climates, these recent humidity and excessive rains There are lots of palms that you can grow in your chilly conditions though! Kentia (Howea), Rhapis (Lady Palms), Livistona (Chinese fan palms), Queen palms (Syagrus), even Chamaedorea (bamboo palms) are quite chill tolerant.  Mediterranean fans are another species that I just don't see as "houseplants", too prickly.

 

Have you considered Sabals?

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On ‎2‎/‎20‎/‎2020 at 7:38 PM, GottmitAlex said:

Have you considered Sabals?

Funny story, my whole palm interest started with sabals. A couple years ago when I was visiting Florida I dug up some "grass" which I had a hunch were sabal seedlings and a small (voluntary and unwanted) queen palm and put them in cups. We drove them back up to Ohio and I killed them because I knew nothing about how to grow potted plants at the time (like that pots need holes). The queen died within a month but the sabals lasted a few months. Anyway at that point I was interested and got my majesties and a cycad. Fast-forward to 2 months ago and I went back, but we flew instead of driving, so I couldn't bring any plants back, but I totally forgot I brought back a Sabal seed in my backpack! I found it in my backpack today and put it in water and it sank so that's a good sign! I have no idea how to germinate sabals or if my seed is even still viable so any advice is appreciated. Thank you for reminding me!!

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On 2/17/2020 at 12:50 PM, PalmatierMeg said:

Coconuts need high heat ( 80F, preferably 90F+) and tons of light and/or sunlight. Long periods of cool temps, i.e., 60-65F, in a dark, dry northern house will kill it. It was telling you so while you watched it die one leaf at a time. For the next one try to keep it under a grow light in a place that stays above 80 during with humidity over 50-60% during the day. Coconuts make poor houseplants.

I agree completely

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@clevelandtropicsmaybe, WELCOME!

Sorry to hear about the coconut, but you'll get good advice here.

Generally, water very sparingly in the winter, because of the low light.

So, where abouts in Cleveland are you? I'm from there; I ran from Euclid to California in 1985.

Also see my PM (private message).

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Hello, thanks for the offer!

Right now I'm stuck in Bay Village. Wish it was warmer here!

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26 minutes ago, clevelandtropicsmaybe said:

Hello, thanks for the offer!

Right now I'm stuck in Bay Village. Wish it was warmer here!

Bay Village is nice; a lot nicer than I Euclid, I think.

It took forever to warm up in the spring, I remember. But the lake keeps it lingering a bit in the fall, though never long enough for my taste.

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Yup, that lake breeze can be annoying, but we do get a lot less lake effect snow here than in Euclid.

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