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Chambeyronia sp 'Houailou' New Red Leaf

PalmatierMeg

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PalmatierMeg Grand Master

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My older Chambeyronia sp 'Houailou' puts out new leaves that are salmon colored. Today I found this dark crimson leaf wonder on my smaller 'Houailou' in the front yard. Enjoy.

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Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

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That is a beauty !! I think it's a hookerii though houlaiou usually has bifid fronds at this age. And the petiols are more yellow. Either way it's a great looking palm cheers 

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PalmatierMeg Grand Master

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9 minutes ago, akamu said:

That is a beauty !! I think it's a hookerii though houlaiou usually has bifid fronds at this age. And the petiols are more yellow. Either way it's a great looking palm cheers 

Huh. It was sold to me as Houailou. Shows even"experts" mess up. It stays where it's at. Can't have too many Chambeyronias.

Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

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@PalmatierMeg I concur with @akamu!

Including that your palm, whatever it is, is magnificent!

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

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2 minutes ago, DoomsDave said:

@PalmatierMeg I concur with @akamu!

Including that your palm, whatever it is, is magnificent!

Thanks, guys. What makes you think it is hookeri and not straight macrocarpa? I've found hookeri much trickier to grow but this guy is doing great except for sunburn last summer.

Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

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I would agree on hookeri.  The crown on the palm is not dark green.  It looks yellow.  

Huntington Beach, CA

USDA Zone 10a/10b

Sunset Zone 24

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Here’s one of my Houialou right out my front door 

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Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

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Yes...that is a houailou.  Notice the contrast between the rachis and the leaflets.  The leaflets have a blue hue to them and are narrower than macrocarpa.  

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Huntington Beach, CA

USDA Zone 10a/10b

Sunset Zone 24

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21 hours ago, joe_OC said:

The leaflets have a blue hue to them and are narrower than macrocarpa

The leaflets are also more rigid and less smooth to the touch on C houailou than C macrocarpa.  Someone else pointed out that when the salmon color fades it get's more of bluish tint, I find the blue tint is similar to that of newly opened leaflets on Kentiopsis oliviformis.

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On 2/14/2020 at 8:54 AM, PalmatierMeg said:

My older Chambeyronia sp 'Houailou' puts out new leaves that are salmon colored. Today I found this dark crimson leaf wonder on my smaller 'Houailou' in the front yard. Enjoy.

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Hi sorry my friend but the one on the picture is definitivly not a chambeyronia houailou

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13 hours ago, surfnoumea said:

Hi sorry my friend but the one on the picture is definitivly not a chambeyronia houailou

Thanks for the confirmation. Even palm experts can be wrong. Welcome to PT.

Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

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On 2/14/2020 at 1:56 PM, DoomsDave said:

Here’s one of my Houialou right out my front door 

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Suddenly I can see why some have talked about this moving to another genus in addition to being a separate described species! The specific epithet should be "laughland" after Kiwi Bryan Laughland who brought it to the attention of the palm collecting world.

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33 minutes ago, richnorm said:

Suddenly I can see why some have talked about this moving to another genus in addition to being a separate described species! The specific epithet should be "laughland" after Kiwi Bryan Laughland who brought it to the attention of the palm collecting world.

Just out of interest, how does this one grow in the warmer parts of NZ? Anyone got them going over there? 

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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48 minutes ago, Tyrone said:

Just out of interest, how does this one grow in the warmer parts of NZ? Anyone got them going over there? 

Glacial! Needs a lot of heat like Kentiposis oliviformis.   My best one was eaten off by a rat this winter but is pushing a leaf at least.  Bloody thing attacked my KO too.  Maybe the rat knows something!

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20 hours ago, richnorm said:

Suddenly I can see why some have talked about this moving to another genus in addition to being a separate described species! The specific epithet should be "laughland" after Kiwi Bryan Laughland who brought it to the attention of the palm collecting world.

definitely is a Chambeyronia and should remain in such genus. I don’t agree that Bryan should be given any credit as the local Palm people already knew about the Houailou palmiers before him. 

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On 1/4/2021 at 1:18 AM, PalmatierMeg said:

Thanks for the confirmation. Even palm experts can be wrong. Welcome to PT.

no worries bro

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No such thing as Houailou red leaf palm unless your talking hookeri, I think RPS call houailouensis “houailou red leaf palm” but it isn’t very accurate a name at all 

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