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3 minutes ago, RyManUtah said:

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take out up-cycling, best I could come up with on hand .  

That should work..  Have seen people here use red solo cups, and add garland, just to make it look Christmas-y..   While you'll loose the tips that got damaged, Stems themselves will grow new arms come spring.

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20 hours ago, Dartolution said:

Ewww... You ain't lying! @RyManUtah:(

 

Funny there are a few around. Some look terrible, some don’t. The handful of tall ones all look unbothered from below. 
their first winter on the ground, however. 

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1 hour ago, RyManUtah said:

Funny there are a few around. Some look terrible, some don’t. The handful of tall ones all look unbothered from below. 
their first winter on the ground, however. 

@RyManUtah Perhaps it just hadn't settled and established in its new spot yet? 

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23 hours ago, Dartolution said:
On 12/16/2020 at 4:00 PM, RyManUtah said:

 

@RyManUtah Perhaps it just hadn't settled and established in its new spot yet? 

That’s my thinking. When they got a “trunk” I removed their grass barrier and back more dirt around them as a mound. I think it had over settled, because I could shock them fairly easily. 
I haven’t been below 20F this winter, but there’s also a group I pass daily that look similar and are thrice the size, so who knows. We have had some cold, windy nights; could simply just be that. 

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Sorry about the damage, hope you don't get too cold and a speedy recovery in spring.  My nitida is still doing great, no damage or spotting, but we've only had a few nights of frost and lowest I've seen so far was 30F, most nights are in the 40s.  Our daytime highs are much lower than yours, been a few degrees on either side of 50F for quite a while now.

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3 hours ago, RyManUtah said:

That’s my thinking. When they got a “trunk” I removed their grass barrier and back more dirt around them as a mound. I think it had over settled, because I could shock them fairly easily. 
I haven’t been below 20F this winter, but there’s also a group I pass daily that look similar and are thrice the size, so who knows. We have had some cold, windy nights; could simply just be that. 

@RyManUtah Cold and WINDY. I think that may have been more of a factor. Wind sheer may have caused desiccation with your lack of humidity, and that combined with freezing temps might have caused that damage. Thats just my opinion though. You're in high desert. Im in humid subtropical. I really do NOT know how you guys survive out there lol. 

Perhaps Im bias. 

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Some beginning of the year documentation. So far this winter things have experienced 21F, with ongoing weeks of lows in the 20s.  All in-ground palms have officially had snow touch their foliage. It was snowing yesterday, but it didn’t “snow”.. if that makes sense. 
 

Trichocereus terscheckii - scars are from sunburn, not cold damage. Growth above the scars have been since it was burnt, sometime in August. It was provided afternoon shade to heal until winter: 

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Sabal palmetto - afternoon shade verses afternoon sun. So far, I prefer the look of the shade specimen, though both are beautiful: 

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Brahea armata - has slowed down significantly since it has cooled down. I am also doing some ‘yard construction’ near it and had to trim some roots, so it has a trench next to it at the moment. Happy as can be: 

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Trachycarpus princeps - These get burned pretty badly when it’s hot out. As you can see, one gets more shade than the other. They both defoliated and replenished their burn fronds throughout the summer. I have more in pots for when I get some more shade going. These palms have been through a radiant heat of 116F, as well as a low of 18F last winter. This was their first summer, and currently their second winter.

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Trachycarpus fortunei - worry free palm if you keep them watered. Tattered fronds are sun damaged. Staked specimen has grown over a foot since being staked last winter. It’s twin, slightly slower. These get full sun (on their crowns) year round. Trunks get shade in winter. 
 

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Trachycarpus fortunei ‘nova’ - A palm I got from @TexasColdHardyPalms ~recently. This is its first winter in ground. Shade planted, but that will be opposite come summer. I’m hoping the three season shade relief will get it through the sun blasting summers. No damage. Seems to be growing faster than in October. I haven’t watered my grass in months, it’s only green in a few places.  I chose this spot so it would be shaded and not too dry. 
 

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xButiagrus nabonnandii - one was spring planted. This one is performing the best. The siting also helps, because it gets blasted with sunshine in the winter, being in the south-facing back yard, and fairly close to my house / concrete patio.  The two below it are in the front yard. It’s colder here most nights, but they were also planted in August. Some of The damage is sunburn. You can see the greenhouse stretching. They also are very exposed to cold winds from the “north”. The one near the street is most exposed, but also isn’t in the shade until the spring equinox. They look.. fine. Nothing too bothersome. 
 

I have had two people catch me watering and ask what the heck kind of palm are those.  :greenthumb:
 

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Trichocereus candicans - this is growing faster now that it’s winter. Producing several pups, and starting to tip over. 
 

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Livistona nitida - cosmetic damage. Spear grows during warm spells. This palm slowly defoliated as it acclimated to the desert, albeit its shade cloth. These are all summer produced fronds. They’re significantly shorter, but wider. it’s performing well enough, being not exactly established, I am considering replacing my robustas with them. anybody know how they handle overhead irrigation in summer?
 

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Washingtonia robusta - as mentioned above.. grotesque. While I have no doubt they will recover, the reason I’m contemplating the switch is that they’re small enough to do so, and won’t be in a few years. I don’t want to cover my robusta. If they can’t live, I don’t really want them ha 
 

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These are all fine. More as less posting for size documentation: 

Oreocereus trollii - has cereusly put on some girth, as has Ferocactus cylindraceus.

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Trichocereus pachanoi - also adding some mass + height, still. 
 

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Chamaerops humilis - I don’t really have any useful observations to add about this palm at the moment, I just like it: 

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And daffodils for some reason

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@RyManUtah Is that Chamaerops one of the "Vulcano" varieties? It looks much different than the 3 I have.

 

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10 minutes ago, Dartolution said:

@RyManUtah Is that Chamaerops one of the "Vulcano" varieties? It looks much different than the 3 I have.

 

I honestly have no idea ha. It was bought at a local nursery with a bunch of other “Mediterranean Fan Palms”. 
I actually chose this one because it looked so unique. what attracted me to it was the odd color, the dark thorns, and the ‘Lisa’-like fronds at it’s fairly decent size. I wanted to see what it grows into. 
The main stem has been girthing. Frond growth seems to be faster in the suckers. Hasn’t really done much, though, so it could very well be.

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Been really busy, but when I can I do a lot of work in the cactus beds too. They’re starting to get a shape. This was grass. 

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36 minutes ago, RyManUtah said:

Chamaerops humilis - I don’t really have any useful observations to add about this palm at the moment, I just like it: 

Ryan I really like yours too.  It's amazing how much variation there is with these!  Its cupped 'lisa' look is characteristic of 'vulcano' but not sure yours is 'vulcano'.  It will look cool though.

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7 minutes ago, Fusca said:

Ryan I really like yours too.  It's amazing how much variation there is with these!  Its cupped 'lisa' look is characteristic of 'vulcano' but not sure yours is 'vulcano'.  It will look cool though.

Thanks @Fusca. The variations amaze me as well. 
There’s a few stop lights around with groupings of them at quite some size. I often stare.. two can look identical in every way but frond color. Some more compact, some more open. I’ve seen a couple with a “weepy” look to them that I really liked, though that could be a result of afternoon shade. 
Tough palms. Ive seen many tall enough to walk under, which clearly predate 2013’s freeze carnage.  :greenthumb:

I want to splurge for a large specimen, when I find the perfect one. 

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6 minutes ago, RyManUtah said:

Thanks @Fusca. The variations amaze me as well. 
There’s a few stop lights around with groupings of them at quite some size. I often stare.. two can look identical in every way but frond color. Some more compact, some more open. I’ve seen a couple with a “weepy” look to them that I really liked, though that could be a result of afternoon shade. 
Tough palms. Ive seen many tall enough to walk under, which clearly predate 2013’s freeze carnage.  :greenthumb:

I want to splurge for a large specimen, when I find the perfect one. 

You might be right about the weepy looking one being due to afternoon shade.  There's one here near my work that is planted on the east side of a building with weepy leaves.  I really like that one too because it looks like it has a fuller crown of leaves.  I'll have to get a pic.  Meanwhile here's one that was on the campus of the school where I used to work:

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Stunning pic, Fusca!

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On 12/17/2020 at 4:48 PM, RyManUtah said:

That’s my thinking. When they got a “trunk” I removed their grass barrier and back more dirt around them as a mound. I think it had over settled, because I could shock them fairly easily. 
I haven’t been below 20F this winter, but there’s also a group I pass daily that look similar and are thrice the size, so who knows. We have had some cold, windy nights; could simply just be that. 

Isn't that a Cereus? Thats a more tender columnar cacti if it is..  I haven't tried one of those here but from what I've read those are hardy to 20f..  The only columnar I've had success with is the Trichocereus..havent tried others tho.. The other one I've wanted to try is the argentine toothpick.  Im curious which ones grow well where you are.. ive been down to 16f so far. 

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14 hours ago, RyManUtah said:

Trachycarpus fortunei ‘nova’ - A palm I got from @TexasColdHardyPalms ~recently. This is its first winter in ground. Shade planted, but that will be opposite come summer. I’m hoping the three season shade relief will get it through the sun blasting summers. No damage. Seems to be growing faster than in October. I haven’t watered my grass in months, it’s only green in a few places.  I chose this spot so it would be shaded and not too dry. 
 

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Can't wait to see the growth on this one!!!

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14 hours ago, RyManUtah said:

And daffodils for some reason

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Perhaps an early spring???  That would be nice!  Once in a while ill see a yucca or agave sending up their shoots in winter.. im like uhh wha..thats off...... dont know why they do that.

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1 hour ago, SailorBold said:

Isn't that a Cereus?

The one with the cups covering on a prior post is a Cereus. The tall one above is a Trichocereus. The hairy one is an Oreocereus. 

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2 hours ago, SailorBold said:

Im curious which ones grow well where you are.. ive been down to 16f so far

I’m curious as well. I have a few I’m going to try, they’re just not big enough. 
ive seen ‘Argentine giants’ and ‘rainbow giants’ around in decent quantity. Both tricho, and many unknown hybrids of Trichocereus grandifolis 

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On 1/1/2021 at 6:55 PM, RyManUtah said:

Washingtonia robusta - as mentioned above.. grotesque. While I have no doubt they will recover, the reason I’m contemplating the switch is that they’re small enough to do so, and won’t be in a few years. I don’t want to cover my robusta. If they can’t live, I don’t really want them ha 
 

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I think you will have much better success with pure W. Filifera vice Robustas in your location...   here in San Antonio when the Robusta crowns are completely browned from hard frosts, the Filifera's and even Filibusta's show no sign of freeze damage.

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Something I found recently 

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The dark side of altitude 

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They got snow in Vegas this year too

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They are looking great. 

I am headed down that way next weekend and im going to be making some palm/yucca purchases

What is your preferred plant store?  Star?

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22 hours ago, Gator said:

 

They are looking great. 

I am headed down that way next weekend and im going to be making some palm/yucca purchases

What is your preferred plant store?  Star?

 

Definitely for desert plants. Inventory tends to vary between all three. Mesquite star has more palms but watch the time zone difference going in the morning. If you’re looking for more Z9 options, however, our big box hardware garden centers are decent. They’re stocked out of Las Vegas, not SLC. 

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spring has arrived 

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A real update :

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One year of difference. - I haven’t been in much, but wanted to share an update. 
 

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notes -

mule spear pulled. It was over-pruned to allow sunlight into crown. Growth has resumed. 
MDF square is an afternoon shade wall for juvenile Trachycarpus princeps, not random trash. 

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Turf be gone ! :wub2:
- always been more into plants that benefit wildlife pollinators over just greenery, so here’s my start. Water will be fully installed at some point... before July .

cheers 
 

 

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