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Cold Hardy Palms in San Antonio Riverwalk


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Beautiful!

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LOWS 16/17 12F, 17/18 3F, 18/19 7F, 19/20 20F

Palms growing in my garden: Trachycarpus Fortunei, Chamaerops Humilis, Chamaerops Humilis var. Cerifera, Rhapidophyllum Hystrix, Sabal Palmetto 

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Brahea armata:

 

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Phoenix reclinata and Acoelorrhaphe wrightii:

 

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40 minutes ago, Fusca said:

Some more:

Brahea edulis (I think)

 

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Not 100% certain but think this is Brahea brandegeei. B. edulis is typically a lot greener/ thicker trunk.. Has that California fan palm "look" from a distance, at least to my eyes.. lol. Nice specimen regardless.. Impressed to see Acoelorrhaphe wrightii, ( ..and a nice specimen at that.. ) there also. :greenthumb:

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13 hours ago, Silas_Sancona said:

Not 100% certain but think this is Brahea brandegeei

Thanks Nathan.  I'm not very good at ID-ing Braheas besides armata, clara and calcarea.  There are several other species scattered around including Serenoa repens, Bismarckia, xButiagrus, Syagrus romanzoffiana, Livistona chinensis and decora, Rhapis excelsa, multiple Chamaedoreas, Trachycarpus, and of course tons of Washingtonia and Sabal.  There's even a large Jubaea that was planted in 1968.  I'll have to get some pics of those next time I'm down there.

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7 hours ago, Meangreen94z said:

I’ve been wanting to make a trip out there again, and photograph the river walk and botanical garden.

Let me know if you come this way.  I'd recommend a visit to Oblate School of Theology as well.  They have more species of palms planted there than the botanical garden and they're all outside surviving the elements.

Jon Sunder

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Made another trip to the riverwalk this weekend and took some palmy pics.  Sun occasionally made an appearance but in general did not cooperate.

This Jubaea chilensis was supposedly planted for the 1968 HemisFair.  So far it has not yet flowered.

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Trachycarpus fortunei:

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Washingtonia filifera:

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Chamaedorea sp:

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Rhapis excelsa

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Phoenix roebelenii:

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1 hour ago, Fusca said:

Made another trip to the riverwalk this weekend and took some palmy pics.  Sun occasionally made an appearance but in general did not cooperate.

This Jubaea chilensis was supposedly planted for the 1968 HemisFair.  So far it has not yet flowered.

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Oof!:rolleyes:  50-ish years planted, and no flowers/ fruit yet.. Feel kind of sorry for anyone starting off w/ seedlings right now.. " You might see yours flower, for the first time, in  ...2090, or 2120" :floor:

 

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It's not a rocket by any means!  It is in mostly shade so that doesn't help with the speed.  Probably has 12-15' of clear trunk.  Some think it's a hybrid.  I recently germinated one myself just to do it and don't expect to see a trunk!  More pics coming so stay tuned!

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On 2/4/2020 at 7:06 AM, Fusca said:

Let me know if you come this way.  I'd recommend a visit to Oblate School of Theology as well.  They have more species of palms planted there than the botanical garden and they're all outside surviving the elements.

They also have a very impressive collection of tropical dicot trees by San Antonio standards. 

Jonathan

Katy, TX (Zone 9a)

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Chamaerops and Sabal mexicana:

 

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Livistona chinensis:

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Livistona decora:

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Bismarckia nobilis and Arenga engleri planted too close to each other:

Riverwalk Bizzie Arenga.jpg

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Nice group of mule palms:

 

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Silver Serenoa repens:

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Sabal palmettos:

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Washingtonia robusta and filibusta:

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43 minutes ago, Xenon said:

They also have a very impressive collection of tropical dicot trees by San Antonio standards. 

Very true - seems to me I remember seeing silk floss tree there.

Jon Sunder

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1 hour ago, RJ said:

I wouldn't of guessed a bizzy would hardy there.... 

It's a pretty good microclimate there due to the water and urban heat.  There are tall buildings all around much of the area as well.

Jon Sunder

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Just a couple comments. I have only been in Texas for 20 years. But I go to the River walk 1-2 times a year. That is a Jubea cross, at least that is what the consensus has been. Nevertheless, it has flowered because one year and if I recall they had seeds that looked like pindo seeds on ground. Unless, I am dreaming. Another year I saw old inflorances and found no seeds. Nevertheless, It has doubled in size since I first saw it. I have a picture from 20 years ago. If only I could find it on an old roll of film, no digital quite yet. 

The Riverwalk has a frost and freeze microclimate almost every year, but has not been below 9b once since 1990. In 2010-2011 when Queens we’re killed at the Alamo just a block over and Mules severally damaged and removed from the Botanical gardens. Only thing that was damaged were a Triangle and Foxtails. They’re were not in the best microclimate and were more exposed. However the queen there was not even frost burned. They took out the foxtails as the had just been planted and were small. The triangle was alive with a good frond but I think they took it out at some point. 

 

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Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

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On 2/4/2020 at 7:06 AM, Fusca said:

Let me know if you come this way.  I'd recommend a visit to Oblate School of Theology as well.  They have more species of palms planted there than the botanical garden and they're all outside surviving the elements.

There were quite a frw palms killed there in 2010-2011. Royals Teddy bears etc.. that inner courtyard has a good microclimate.... so I wouldn’t say it’s possibly replicate for a home owner to build a school a few stories high with 4 walls and just a small entrance.

but thank you whoever planted them! 

Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

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43 minutes ago, Collectorpalms said:

That is a Jubea cross, at least that is what the consensus has been. Nevertheless, it has flowered because one year and if I recall they had seeds that looked like pindo seeds on ground

From old threads here there were comments that it might be a hybrid but it seems to carry more Jubaea traits than anything.  Nice to know that it has flowered in the past - everyone I had asked told me that it had not flowered to their knowledge, but it's been there awhile.  I've only been here in SA 3 years and I haven't seen any evidence of flowering during the past 3 years.  Jubaea fruit look a lot like Butia fruit so I imagine a cross would produce similar fruit to either parent.  Nice to see you posting again!

Jon Sunder

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Never saw that Jubea cross but I distinctly remember a number of mature queen palms along the Riverwalk. Sadly, I guess they passed in the cold episode that you referenced.

What you look for is what is looking

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12 hours ago, bubba said:

Never saw that Jubea cross but I distinctly remember a number of mature queen palms along the Riverwalk. Sadly, I guess they passed in the cold episode that you referenced.

There are still a couple of Syagrus along the riverwalk but they are in mostly shaded spots up against tall buildings so are difficult to photograph.  Ones in the open might have passed as you mentioned.

Jon Sunder

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