Possible Butiajubaea hybrid?

[John Derek]

I found these older girls in North West Louisiana in mid December by pure chance. While admiring them at an abandoned Sonic drive it I noticed an abundance of sprouts. I transplanted 52 which all are doing great. I drove back by there last week and noticed the one in which I dug up sprouts was very blue and about 15 feet tall. What are the chances that this girl is actually a hybrid butiajubaea? The other one although is similar size is not as blue. The Fonda are very long and arching. Our winters are cold and summers are hot. What do the experts think?

[Zifool]

Maybe Yatay ?

[RJ]

What makes you think it has any Jubaea in it? 

[John Derek]

I was wondering because of the height of them? That maybe they were hybrid? 

[OC2Texaspalmlvr]

Is there a fruiting size Jubaea in the area ? If so I would love to see the pics of that bad boy =) 

[RJ]

4 hours ago, John Derek said:

I was wondering because of the height of them? That maybe they were hybrid? 

They aren't very tall for a butia, and to be honest look pretty much like bone stock B. Odorata to my eyes. If there is Jubaea in them it would be a pretty small amount. For a BxJ to be self fertile it has to be in the order of an F3 or further down the line. Meaning something like a (((BXJ)xB)xB). As you can see at that point there isn't much Jubaea left. The fact that you found seedlings leads me to believe it's a regular butia. 

 

 

[John Derek]

38 minutes ago, OC2Texaspalmlvr said:

Is there a fruiting size Jubaea in the area ? If so I would love to see the pics of that bad boy =) 

I haven’t ran across any in this area. But I have a temptation to grow one and over winter inside until it gets too big to deal with. I’d also like to have a Bismarckia nobilis.

[OC2Texaspalmlvr]

13 minutes ago, John Derek said:

I haven’t ran across any in this area. But I have a temptation to grow one and over winter inside until it gets too big to deal with. I’d also like to have a Bismarckia nobilis.

Ok without a Jubaea near by definitely makes it harder to believe the palms in question could be a hybrid with Jubaea. Jubaea hybrids seems to be a better to choice for us here in the south with our wet winters and high humidity. JxS comes to mind. 

Bizzies are a must have palm , my wife's favorite, which I have 4 in the ground currently =) Lowes seems to carry them out my way all the time. 

[John Derek]

6 minutes ago, OC2Texaspalmlvr said:

Ok without a Jubaea near by definitely makes it harder to believe the palms in question could be a hybrid with Jubaea. Jubaea hybrids seems to be a better to choice for us here in the south with our wet winters and high humidity. JxS comes to mind. 

Bizzies are a must have palm , my wife's favorite, which I have 4 in the ground currently =) Lowes seems to carry them out my way all the time. 

What part of Texas?

[OC2Texaspalmlvr]

4 minutes ago, John Derek said:

What part of Texas?

30 mins south of Houston and about 6 miles from the gulf 

[Jeff985]

1 hour ago, OC2Texaspalmlvr said:

Ok without a Jubaea near by definitely makes it harder to believe the palms in question could be a hybrid with Jubaea. Jubaea hybrids seems to be a better to choice for us here in the south with our wet winters and high humidity. JxS comes to mind. 

Bizzies are a must have palm , my wife's favorite, which I have 4 in the ground currently =) Lowes seems to carry them out my way all the time. 

Not only does Lowe’s have them, if you go in the winter they sell them cheap. I picked up a 7 gallon for $15.