Zamia Furfuracea hybrid or something else?

[Merlyn]

A local nursery had about 40 pots of Zamia Furfuracea, and one of the pots was very different! The leaf texture on this one is similar, but about twice as long, pointy with semi-serrated edges near the tip. It sort of looks like Psuedoparasitica. Any ideas on an ID? Maybe a hybrid of Furfuracea and something else bigger?

[Really full garden]

Zamias can hybridize easily. yours looks like Zamia loddigesii .I think that there are natural hybrids of Z.furfuracea and Z.loddigesii in their natural range.

[Merlyn]

Another person suggested Loddigesii, it's probably pretty close.  The leaves are 25mm wide x 200mm long, with 11 pairs of leaves and a thorny petiole.  That, or a mix with Furfuracea is probably the best bet I've seen.

It could also be Fairchildiana, though that seems kind of unlikely due to the relative rarity and the leaf shape not being quite right.  Acuminata is another possibility Psuedoparasitica is probably a LOT larger than this one, so that's out. 

[Merlyn]

A FB Cycads group moderator suggested that this is actually the "long narrow form" of Zamia Furfuracea.  Apparently there are two types, one is pretty much extinct in the cultivation market.  The "regular" one is the rounded-leaf form with overlapping leaflets, and the "long narrow form" looks pretty much like this one, with leaves about twice as long as the others and generally with space between leaflets.  

Loddigesii typically is a lot narrower, more like 15mm wide leaflets.  It also tends to be randomly twisting and doesn't have the same kind of thorns on the petioles.

[NOT A TA]

19 hours ago, Merlyn2220 said:

A local nursery had about 40 pots of Zamia Furfuracea, and one of the pots was very different!

So it's yours now? And planted in your garden?

[Merlyn]

2 hours ago, NOT A TA said:

So it's yours now? And planted in your garden?

It's definitely mine now!  I haven't planted it yet, since I wasn't sure if it was going to become a giant Zamia like Psuedoparasitica.  Since it is a different form, I may decide to separate it out from the other "regular" ones in the pot and plant it individually.  

[Really full garden]

Z. Pseudoparasitica only grows in trees. It is not a terrestrial Zamia. It is also  zone 11 + in its requirements

[Really full garden]

Hybrid Z. marítima ( furfuracea) x Loddigesii on the bottom 

Z. marítima on the top

Both came from mature plant growing in full sun beach front conditions.

[Merlyn]

I went back over to the nursery (Green's) and looked through their collection.  I found two more very long & skinny leaved ones, and a couple of very short, stout ones.  There was a wide mix of shapes, though most looked like the typical Furfuracea.  Here's the two "most different" ones that I just bought:

[NOT A TA]

Did you get both of the ones with the thin leaflets? I'm thinking with three you might have both sexes and get seed production if you plant them together.