Hyophorbe lagenicaulis outdoors in San Francisco?

[thallo]

 I found a beautiful 3G Hyophorbe lagenicaulis at an Oakland nursery. From what I have read, this palm is ok down to about 33-35F. The guy at the nursery said they don’t like cold/wet combo. Has anyone grown this planted outdoors in San Francisco? I’m in the Lower Haight close to market and Dolores with southeastern exposure and plenty of sun. Would this have a problem with our winters (assuming it never freezes)?

If so, will they thrive in a sunny window?

Thanks!

-Trey

Edited October 20, 2019 by thallo

[tim_brissy_13]

I’m on the opposite side of the world but I’d be willing to bet it’s no chance outside. Not enough warm even if it doesn’t get near freezing. Should be ok near a sunny window indoors, I had one inside that did fine for a while. 

[richnorm]

Not a chance! But they make a good house plant and you can put them out over the summer.

[palmfriend]

Interesting!

Okinawa - another part of the world! We are not that hot over here but have never seen any freezes -

and it grows like weed. It is probably really about the overall temps during the year. 

Otherwise a Ceroxylon is an absolute no-goer over here - way too warm at night for approx. 

eight months during the year... - and I would love to grow one.

 

best regards

Lars

 

[bubba]

I have noticed in Florida when you see specimens on the "edge areas"to our north, they never have the deep healthy color and appear weak and not very appealing...

[PalmatierMeg]

I've visited SF in August from VA. I wore a cotton fisherman's knit sweater and a London Fog raincoat to go outdoors every morning. Strangest weather experience of my life. Bottles need daytime heat, 80-90F, and warm nights outdoors. Keep yours potted.

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[pietropuccio]

In Palermo (38° 10' 43" N), in a sheltered position south facing, grows quite well:

 

 

Edited October 20, 2019 by pietropuccio

[thallo]

Thanks for all the information! I’m going to use a decorative pot and keep it inside my southeast facing window. 

[GottmitAlex]

Interestingly enough, we were downtown SF this past weekend and it hit 80F at noon while driving up to the bridge. We had just left Mel's diner. Great breakfast place btw 

 

 

Edited October 24, 2019 by GottmitAlex

[Tyrone]

Compared to a coconut, Hyophorbe lagenicaulis is much more root hardy but not as leaf hardy. If you drop below 2C expect leaf damage. High summer heat and plenty of water are good for them. The colder it gets the drier they must be kept to prevent rot. In a protected spot, ie under plastic, in a cool climate they may be induced to survive, but they will never be a bulky specimen like in a warmer climate.

[Dan OKeeffe]

My guess is a no go. However, I live in SF sunset district 1mile from the ocean with some of the coolest and wettest conditions.  Chambeyronia M, Pritchardia Hillibrandi, Dypsis Decepiens and Dypsis Onilahensis are growing well for me.  If you’re gonna try it, then plant it in full sun close to a dark painted wall...it works for me.

[Darold Petty]

Dan has a green thumb.      He is growing stuff I wouldn't try, and he is closer to the ocean than I !!