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Palm Photos from my back lanai, Fall 2019

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The sun is still ferocious and days usually sweltering but north and east breezes carry a whiff of cooler, drier days on the horizon. Another 4-5 weeks and the rainy season spigot abruptly shuts off. I do most of my yard work in the fall, winter and early spring trying to catch up with growth in overdrive from summer. Yesterday I decided to make a photo update of my tropical container garden on the back lanai. Last month I did battle with a mealybug infestation on some of my Chamaedoreas using two spray bottles of insecticidal soap and imidicloprid drench. Yesterday I found scale starting to invade - more insecticidal soap. Come early Nov. I will proactively go after spider mites with one of my two miticides. Right now all my uber tropical potted palms are at their peak glory.

Among the palms featured below are two that have lost their tags and need an expert ID. Please help me find out who they are.

First Photo: a view of the length of the lanai looking east. I keep the birdcage covered with two layers of commercial grade shadecloth to protect the palms inside.

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One palm in particular inspired this photo essay: Pinanga cochinchinensis. I've had a checkered history with Pinangas. I love them but so often they cling to life for me, then give up and die. I'm so delighted this handsome clumper has hung in and actually grew to about 6' tall. I recently moved it to a larger pot because the wind kept blowing it over.

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Areca catechu Dwarf - This is my oldest surviving dwarf Areca and the only large one kept on the lanai. The rest stay outdoors.

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Johannesteijsmannia altifrons - my larger of two. Both have done well for me. I have repotted them once with great trepidation because they are quite root sensitive but they took the disruption in stride. I've had no luck growing any of the other Joey species.

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Ravenea hildebrandtii

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Heterospathe salomonensis

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The genus Dypsis has scores of species. Many, but not all, prefer the mediterranean climate in CA, as opposed to the sweltering heat of FL. I am currently trying the following species in pots:

Dypsis mirabilis - I've had this colorful little palm for almost a year. It will go through its second winter here soon.

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Dypsis psammophila - A slender, gracile clumper related to the larger commoner D. lutescens

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Dypsis prestoniana - My tentative introduction to the large to huge species that often grow like snails and keel over when faced with the heat of the day and night

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Got to take a break now. More photos soon. Thanks for looking.

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Rickybobby

Looks awesome!

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redant

Great collection of exotic stuff. The presentation is outstanding, my nursery looks nothing like that.

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OC2Texaspalmlvr

Now that Lanai is the epitomy of what i want my container ranch to look like 1 day :greenthumb:

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PalmatierMeg

More photos

Genus Hydriastele can be tricky even in SWFL. Species with "leathery" leaves seem to do better for me. My greatest success was H. dransfieldii, which grew so tall I had to plant it in the jungle and is facing its 3rd winter in the ground. It flowered for the first time this summer but aborted its seeds.

Hydriastele beguinii 'Obi Island'

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Hydriastele pinangoides

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Hydriastele rostrata

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If you want to keep a palm container garden, never overlook Genus Chamaedorea. If you think these mostly small palms are common and boring, think again.

Chamaedorea metallica Whole Leaf

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Chamaedorea metallica Pinnate Leaf - much less common form

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Chamaedorea deckeriana

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Unknown small Chamaedorea??? for ID. This little palm seems very slow growing and has whole leathery leaves. Its stem appears distinctly "Chamaedorea" to me but I am still stumped. Can anyone tell what it may be?

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Genus Licuala up next. Stay tuned. Thanks for looking.

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Brett in Mission Viejo

Maybe C. Audesends? Mine have lighter leave color.

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jimmyt

No other words than-- Fantastic!  :wub:

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HtownPalms

Great collection of some fantastic palms. 

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tinman10101

Beautifully grown Meg! 

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PalmatierMeg

And it's Licuala time! This genus of mostly small palms is endlessly beautiful and take well to pot culture. I haven't had a lot of luck growing them from seeds, which usually germinate well. But after that the tiny seedlings are prone to damping off and take forever to grow past their initial first leaf. I've done well starting with seedlings in 4" pots. I keep most of the larger potted Licualas in my back yard jungle.

Licuala sp 'Yal Braal'

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Licuala lauterbachii

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Licuala peltata v peltata

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Licuala peltata v sumawonga

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Licuala aurantiaca

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Licuala sp 'Fairchild'

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PalmatierMeg

I have one more palm that needs an ID. It is solitary and has an Archonotophoenix look to me. But the pink streamer indicates it may be more cold sensitive than expected for that genus.  Can anyone help me pinpoint its ID. Thanks for looking

Palm for ID

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redant

Awesome collection. Do you blend your own potting soil for palm? seems heavy in the perlite, which they seem to love.

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47 minutes ago, redant said:

Awesome collection. Do you blend your own potting soil for palm? seems heavy in the perlite, which they seem to love.

I do. I buy perlite in 4 cu yd bags from a local nursery. Pumice is heavy and unavailable and stuff like turface and such are hard to find and expensive in the amounts I need. I pot a lot of plants. I mix it into as coarse a soil as I can find.

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On 9/21/2019 at 3:49 PM, PalmatierMeg said:

And it's Licuala time! This genus of mostly small palms is endlessly beautiful and take well to pot culture. I haven't had a lot of luck growing them from seeds, which usually germinate well. But after that the tiny seedlings are prone to damping off and take forever to grow past their initial first leaf. I've done well starting with seedlings in 4" pots. I keep most of the larger potted Licualas in my back yard jungle.

Licuala sp 'Yal Braal'

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Licuala lauterbachii

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Licuala peltata v peltata

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Licuala peltata v sumawonga

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Licuala aurantiaca

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Licuala sp 'Fairchild'

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You have a beautiful collection of Licuala species. I love them myself for their stunning green colors, the diversity of leaves and the grace when they move in a soft breeze.I started with Licuala grandis and added peltata var peltata, peltata v sumawongii, aurantiaca, elegans and cordata. They get a good amount of water and mist and seem to like it. They are all doing extremely well here. 

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