Remarkable palms of Tampa Bay

[RedRabbit]

13 hours ago, kinzyjr said:

Some late 2010 Roystonea regia in Babson Park:

https://www.google.com/maps/@27.8329796,-81.5263966,3a,90y,338.01h,87.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLdmNpJYwA2m-wiSRthnESg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

 

That’s a good find! I didn’t think royals could survive the dec 2010 freeze there. 

[DCA_Palm_Fan]

A nice Phoenix Roebelenii x? hybrid.   Looks to me like Reclinata.   

One of they many VERY tall / old royals in and around St Pete.  You see these in some older neighborhoods as well as DTSP.   I included a couple of pics that have the house next to it to show scale. Its VERY tall.   

[DCA_Palm_Fan]

Two more very tall / old Royals in DTSP, in front of Rocco's steak house on 2nd Ave S.   These are about 8-10 stories tall.    One pic include cars under one for scale.    A couple other photos were taken  from about 4 blocks south, and 5 blocks or so west from my friends 12th floor condo.  Once is a wide shot, the other is zoomed in and cropped.   I included these because you can clearly see these two palms and they stick out and seem to rise above most other trees.  

[kinzyjr]

6 hours ago, chinandega81 said:

What happened to the diseased palms in this photo? It doesn't look like cold damage or a lack of water. Is there some disease? I have seen MANY royals suffer from whatever this is in South Florida as well. Is it a severe nutrition deficiency?

It looks like some kind of nutrient deficiency.  Boron, Potassium, Magnesium, or some combination of all three.  There is one over at Harrison School of the Arts that appears to be on its way out from a similar frizzle-top type syndrome.

[kinzyjr]

4 hours ago, RedRabbit said:

That’s a good find! I didn’t think royals could survive the dec 2010 freeze there. 

Foxtails have done pretty decent as well.  These are on Wall St. in Frostproof.  They weren't there for 2010, but were planted shortly after and didn't do too bad during the Jan. 2018 advective freeze.

https://www.google.com/maps/@27.7460125,-81.5305448,3a,75y,112.06h,92.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sorAYFLuBmlh_2iAxxqQWAA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

[ZPalms]

On 9/2/2019 at 12:38 PM, Mr.SamuraiSword said:

 

HUGE Washingtonia size Sabal palmetto on the inner side of the Tampa Bay

https://www.google.com/maps/@27.7842935,-82.4257038,3a,34.2y,65.32h,98.92t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZE9KJ3PTVh7Yd0247KlcUw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

I sometimes forget sabals can get tall like this, That is wild

[JJPalmer]

Thoroughly impressed with the Bardmoor neighborhood. Giant ficus, numerous tall coconuts, robust plumeria - really impressive. Here’s a pic of the most impressive coconut I saw, though there were quite a few.  I'm not sure the picture does it justice.  Foxtails in this neighborhood look pretty much unscathed from the 2010-2011 winters, something not true of many areas in Pinellas.  
 

https://www.google.com/maps/@27.8672857,-82.758336,3a,75y,183.72h,89.69t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1spuOfdH4BBeXLFwwXxHuO2A!2e0!5s20110301T000000!7i13312!8i6656 

 

Edited September 25, 2021 by JJPalmer

[JJPalmer]

6 minutes ago, JJPalmer said:

Thoroughly impressed with the Bardmoor neighborhood. Giant ficus, numerous tall coconuts, robust plumeria - really impressive. Here’s a pic of the most impressive coconut I saw, though there were quite a few.  Foxtails in this neighborhood look pretty much unscathed from the 2010-2011 winters, something not true of many areas in Pinellas.  
 

 

House was built in 1980 - hmmmmmm. Could this be another 80’s coconut, or just early 90’s?

[DCA_Palm_Fan]

23 hours ago, JJPalmer said:

House was built in 1980 - hmmmmmm. Could this be another 80’s coconut, or just early 90’s?

 

 

Interesting.  That's pretty amazing if so.   In the street view there are two cocos there and they look very ratty.    I guess there is no way of knowing when the street view was taken, but it looks like the one in your photo is the only survivor to date.    Def less common to see cocos that tall up in that area.  

[RedRabbit]

23 hours ago, JJPalmer said:

Thoroughly impressed with the Bardmoor neighborhood. Giant ficus, numerous tall coconuts, robust plumeria - really impressive. Here’s a pic of the most impressive coconut I saw, though there were quite a few.  I'm not sure the picture does it justice.  Foxtails in this neighborhood look pretty much unscathed from the 2010-2011 winters, something not true of many areas in Pinellas.  
 

https://www.google.com/maps/@27.8672857,-82.758336,3a,75y,183.72h,89.69t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1spuOfdH4BBeXLFwwXxHuO2A!2e0!5s20110301T000000!7i13312!8i6656 

 

Thanks for sharing! I never get over to that part of town and I’ve been wondering how it is there. Apparently they’ve got a nice microclimate! 

23 hours ago, JJPalmer said:

House was built in 1980 - hmmmmmm. Could this be another 80’s coconut, or just early 90’s?

I don’t think it’s an 80s coconut. A coconut planted in 1980 would probably be >50’ at this point. The size of this palm looks consistent with a coconut planted maybe somewhere around 1995. 

[kinzyjr]

When you have a Hyophorbe lagenicaulis that survives bad freezes, might as well plant a few more:

 

[bstoller]

Updated pic taken today of my Copernicia Fallaensis 

[bstoller]

Tahina Spectabilis as of today ….

[bstoller]

 

Calyptronoma Rivalis 

[bubba]

Not unlike the Orlando thread, I have been amazed at the large number of healthy and old 10b specimens that are virtually ubiquitous in the area of Davis Island near Tampa General Hospital. I do not know if this is a microclimate but considering Clearwater, St. Pete and other areas nearby, I can only assume that they mirror or exceed Davis Island.

[SubTropicRay]

2 minutes ago, bubba said:

Not unlike the Orlando thread, I have been amazed at the large number of healthy and old 10b specimens that are virtually ubiquitous in the area of Davis Island near Tampa General Hospital. I do not know if this is a microclimate but considering Clearwater, St. Pete and other areas nearby, I can only assume that they mirror or exceed Davis Island.

Yeah it's amazing what'll happen when no hard freezes impact the area for awhile.  Fingers are crossed.  The recent Texas event looms large in my mind.  It could have been us.

[kinzyjr]

A lot of the recent construction seems to be adopting more interesting specimens like Roystonea regia for their landscaping:

Century Avenues:

Lakeland Grand Apartments:

And one at the roundabout by Florida Southern College:

[RedRabbit]

On 10/14/2021 at 11:47 AM, bstoller said:

 

 

Calyptronoma Rivalis 

Is this yours? 

I was reading they’re not too cold tolerant, where is this one growing?

[kinzyjr]

Archontophoenix purpurea (?)

[RedRabbit]

2 minutes ago, kinzyjr said:

Archontophoenix purpurea (?)

Looks like it to me, but I don’t have a great eye for  differentiating Archontophoenix. Where is this?

[kinzyjr]

Just now, RedRabbit said:

Looks like it to me, but I don’t have a great eye for  differentiating Archontophoenix. Where is this?

Lake Hollingsworth near the parking area for the boats.

[kinzyjr]

This particular Archontophoenix had its fronds above the first roof line in 2010.  It's been around a while.

[kinzyjr]

A few from the Christina neighborhood.

Dypsis lutescens ~20ft.

Large Delonix regia:

Adonidia merrillii:

Roystonea regia in flower:

[Chatta]

seething with palm envy over that Copernecia fallensis and Tahina in St. Pete XD

[kinzyjr]

On 6/7/2020 at 10:07 PM, kinzyjr said:

Adonidia merrillii in flower at Lake Wales Medical Center.  From the street views, it looks a few might have been there since at least the 2013 street view.  The 2007 and 2008 street views are a little blurry to use for verification purposes.  There are a lot of them near the entrance at this point as well.  Screen captures added for folks that have had issues with the links.

July 2019 - Adonidia in Flower

June 2016 - Adonidia in Flower

July 2013 - Adonidia

January 2008 - Adonidia?

December 2007 - Adonidia?

Had to go to Lake Wales today, so I followed up on the Adonidia merrillii at the hospital in Lake Wales.   They range from between 9 and 12+feet of grey wood and are currently at various stages of flowering.  One died and has become a home for a few birds.  I also snapped a few photos of a Ficus and a Ptychosperma down the hill from the hospital slightly.

[TaylorPlantHunter]

On 9/24/2021 at 12:02 PM, RedRabbit said:

That’s a good find! I didn’t think royals could survive the dec 2010 freeze there. 

That’s even a colder spot relatively speaking once you are further south on the east side of Crooked lake the high ridge and protection from the lake make an even more interesting microclimate. I live in this part of Babson Park. A few of my neighbors have sub tropical fruit farms here. I have over 90 varieties of subtropical/tropical fruits, many perennial herbs/vegetables, and about 26 species of palms.

[kinzyjr]

Nothing like ringing in the new year with a new red leaf:

[JJPalmer]

A new 31 story high-rise by the Straz center submitted landscaping documents and incorporated Coconuts in the landscape design. Bold but would be an interesting experiment. 

 

[RedRabbit]

I stumbled upon this palm today in Palm Harbor, any ideas on what this is? It looks similar to an Arenga pinnata but the trunk looks different.

Edited February 13, 2022 by RedRabbit

[Zeeth]

1 hour ago, RedRabbit said:

I stumbled upon this palm today in Palm Harbor, any ideas on what this is? It looks similar to an Arenga pinnata but the trunk looks different.

Elaeis guineensis

[RedRabbit]

15 minutes ago, Zeeth said:

Elaeis guineensis

Thanks @Zeeth, I think you’re correct. It’s been awhile since I’ve seen one of those.

[cocoforcoconuts]

Does anyone have any current post freeze pictures of coconut palms around Tampa Bay? Particularly the non-marginal coconut growing areas near the water like St. Pete, south Tampa, Apollo Beach, Palmetto, etc.

[JJPalmer]

11 minutes ago, cocoforcoconuts said:

Does anyone have any current post freeze pictures of coconut palms around Tampa Bay? Particularly the non-marginal coconut growing areas near the water like St. Pete, south Tampa, Apollo Beach, Palmetto, etc.

There are a ton of pics if you dig through this thread, but below are links to street view locations of some of the most prominent that I have found in Pinellas County, excluding the barrier islands where they are plentiful.  There are several large specimen in Tampa, specifically on Davis and Harbor Islands.  In Pinellas County, you'll find their density to be highest on the barrier islands and the neighborhoods of Shore Acres, Cocina Key, Snell Isle, Old Northeast, Pinellas Point, Old Southeast, and Pasadena.   I just wish they were more popular around here!

https://www.google.com/maps/@28.0183523,-82.7757081,3a,44.7y,70.58h,99.15t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sev5eWU-ctRw1v_GyNtW5_g!2e0!5s20211201T000000!7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@27.9875402,-82.6904567,3a,22.6y,73.08h,91.03t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1smP3Gc5TX6tTAnuT98u3wxw!2e0!5s20210101T000000!7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@27.9554579,-82.7999709,3a,34.8y,34.49h,98.3t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1spHJS8O1cu2RnWmUY_WiZkw!2e0!5s20211201T000000!7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@27.8181711,-82.6660505,3a,44y,117.16h,94.83t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sKmfv0u0-Qz2mCtwqDy-kuw!2e0!5s20210301T000000!7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@27.7824853,-82.6253804,3a,75y,303.67h,108.05t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sh2bsYLWqOcGCyWY7Wh8-PA!2e0!5s20190801T000000!7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@27.7981361,-82.6334337,3a,75y,219.62h,95.57t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sqsGkP3EkkHrH2odODIJhNg!2e0!5s20211101T000000!7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@27.8072063,-82.6324193,3a,37.8y,250.41h,100.71t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sJJlqniVRxGr_ce4m57TA9w!2e0!5s20190801T000000!7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@27.8506807,-82.6366999,3a,29.3y,70.81h,92.47t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYwqjnnqisyr3YPnvjXWXkg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@27.7519823,-82.63083,3a,32.8y,328.75h,96.4t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sSkSMuhep0hBCc0GHyMZS-A!2e0!5s20210301T000000!7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@28.0397987,-82.7875435,3a,75y,61.53h,96.73t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sjJApYepdqCwkFxhJfd47Qg!2e0!5s20190801T000000!7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@27.8608889,-82.6367793,3a,75y,295.02h,90.66t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sV71-wuHRtgDcu_W9WKkq7g!2e0!5s20190801T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DV71-wuHRtgDcu_W9WKkq7g%26cb_client%3Dsearch.revgeo_and_fetch.gps%26w%3D96%26h%3D64%26yaw%3D138.71071%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[cocoforcoconuts]

7 minutes ago, JJPalmer said:

There are a ton of pics if you dig through this thread, but below are links to street view locations of some of the most prominent that I have found in Pinellas County, excluding the barrier islands where they are plentiful.  There are several large specimen in Tampa, specifically on Davis and Harbor Islands.  In Pinellas County, you'll find their density to be highest on the barrier islands and the neighborhoods of Shore Acres, Cocina Key, Snell Isle, Old Northeast, Pinellas Point, Old Southeast, and Pasadena.   I just wish they were more popular around here!

https://www.google.com/maps/@28.0183523,-82.7757081,3a,44.7y,70.58h,99.15t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sev5eWU-ctRw1v_GyNtW5_g!2e0!5s20211201T000000!7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@27.9875402,-82.6904567,3a,22.6y,73.08h,91.03t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1smP3Gc5TX6tTAnuT98u3wxw!2e0!5s20210101T000000!7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@27.9554579,-82.7999709,3a,34.8y,34.49h,98.3t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1spHJS8O1cu2RnWmUY_WiZkw!2e0!5s20211201T000000!7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@27.8181711,-82.6660505,3a,44y,117.16h,94.83t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sKmfv0u0-Qz2mCtwqDy-kuw!2e0!5s20210301T000000!7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@27.7824853,-82.6253804,3a,75y,303.67h,108.05t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sh2bsYLWqOcGCyWY7Wh8-PA!2e0!5s20190801T000000!7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@27.7981361,-82.6334337,3a,75y,219.62h,95.57t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sqsGkP3EkkHrH2odODIJhNg!2e0!5s20211101T000000!7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@27.8072063,-82.6324193,3a,37.8y,250.41h,100.71t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sJJlqniVRxGr_ce4m57TA9w!2e0!5s20190801T000000!7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@27.8506807,-82.6366999,3a,29.3y,70.81h,92.47t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYwqjnnqisyr3YPnvjXWXkg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@27.7519823,-82.63083,3a,32.8y,328.75h,96.4t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sSkSMuhep0hBCc0GHyMZS-A!2e0!5s20210301T000000!7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@28.0397987,-82.7875435,3a,75y,61.53h,96.73t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sjJApYepdqCwkFxhJfd47Qg!2e0!5s20190801T000000!7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@27.8608889,-82.6367793,3a,75y,295.02h,90.66t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sV71-wuHRtgDcu_W9WKkq7g!2e0!5s20190801T000000!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DV71-wuHRtgDcu_W9WKkq7g%26cb_client%3Dsearch.revgeo_and_fetch.gps%26w%3D96%26h%3D64%26yaw%3D138.71071%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

More specifically, I am looking for images post-1/30 and as close to current day as possible to see the damage from the recent freeze

[JJPalmer]

2 minutes ago, cocoforcoconuts said:

More specifically, I am looking for images post-1/30 and as close to current day as possible to see the damage from the recent freeze

Sorry - misread.  From everything that I've seen, the mature cocos in St. Pete look fairly healthy post-freeze.  A couple have some damage on the lower fronds.  The most damage I've seen has been to Dypsis lutescens and Sea Grapes nearer the surface where the frost accumulated.  I'd be curious how the cocos in Dunedin look.

[Zeeth]

2 hours ago, cocoforcoconuts said:

Does anyone have any current post freeze pictures of coconut palms around Tampa Bay? Particularly the non-marginal coconut growing areas near the water like St. Pete, south Tampa, Apollo Beach, Palmetto, etc.

I had my family send pics of the coconuts at my parents garden in Palmetto as I'm out of town at the moment and I was curious to see how things fared. The low was 31.4F. Here's post-freeze of a few of my coconuts. All other varieties seem to have faired about equally:

Jamaican tall:

Tahiti Red Dwarf:

Fiji Dwarf:

Hawaiian tall:

[RedRabbit]

1 hour ago, JJPalmer said:

Sorry - misread.  From everything that I've seen, the mature cocos in St. Pete look fairly healthy post-freeze.  A couple have some damage on the lower fronds.  The most damage I've seen has been to Dypsis lutescens and Sea Grapes nearer the surface where the frost accumulated.  I'd be curious how the cocos in Dunedin look.

I was just in Dunedin over the weekend. By the water it’s like nothing happened and inland is mixed. The are taller ones around Main and Patricia were a little brown, but pretty healthy looking overall. 

Edited February 14, 2022 by RedRabbit

[JJPalmer]

5 hours ago, RedRabbit said:

I was just in Dunedin over the weekend. By the water it’s like nothing happened and inland is mixed. The are taller ones around Main and Patricia were a little brown, but pretty healthy looking overall. 

I wish the owner of that car wash understands how important those coconuts are to this community lol. 

[cocoforcoconuts]

Thanks, this is all great to hear!

[kinzyjr]

Here are a few from Brandon, FL.

Thrinax radiata(?) Leucothrinax morrissii(?) - These have been there since at least 2008 and are actively setting seed.

Wodyetia bifurcata - Pre-2008 as well.  There used to be one in front of the sign, but it perished in one of the freezes.

Roystonea regia - These were planted in late 2018 and took a pretty good dent this winter.