Ed in Houston 238 Report post Posted August 27 Anthropologists tell the story that as little as 50,000 years ago there were 5 or more species of humans including Sapiens, Neanderthals, Erectus, Denisovans and others. Sapiens who originated in Africa and migrated to the rest of the old world eliminated the other versions of humanity by either out screwing or out gunning the rest of humanity until there were only Sapiens left by 30,000 years ago. Now it is the Sapiens that will be eliminated at the hands of themselves. Excerpts: Homo sapiens could vanish from Earth entirely. The understanders of the future will not be humans. Tomorrow’s cyborgs will easily become a million times smarter than we are. It’s entirely possible they would have no form at all,” existing mostly as virtual forms inside computers. The cyborgs will be so far beyond us in intellect that they may dismiss us as part of the planet's background landscape. Once we get used to being treated like houseplants........ Just as we do not mourn the passing of our ancestor species, neither, I imagine, will the cyborgs be grief-stricken by the passing of humans.” We are now preparing to hand the gift of knowing on to new forms of intelligent beings. Cyborgs will replace humans and remake the world Ed in Houston 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darold Petty 1,508 Report post Posted August 27 How about the ridiculous chatter about colonizing Mars?? If we screw up Earth we deserve to die out ! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hillizard 921 Report post Posted August 27 And for more 'cheery' news: Amazon fires: Angola and DR Congo 'have more blazes': https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-49471644 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed in Houston 238 Report post Posted August 28 22 hours ago, Darold Petty said: How about the ridiculous chatter about colonizing Mars?? If we screw up Earth we deserve to die out ! Most higher life forms understand the wisdom of not soiling one's own nest. Elon Musk's approach to humans lack of wisdom is to leave the nest by becoming an interplanetary species. It appears that the engineering challenges of colonizing Mars can be mastered soon. Medical problems of a months long space trip due to radiation exposure have not been resolved. Musk is at risk of creating the world's first interplanetary hospice facility. It should also be noted that most died within the first year of the establishment of the Jamestown colony in the new world. Ed in Houston 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
palmsOrl 645 Report post Posted August 29 (edited) I was reading a few years back that the hominid species Homo floresiensis, which inhabited the island of Flores in Indonesia (the Ebu gogo), may have existed as recently as the first half of the 19th century AD. This is controversial though and is based on accounts by the Nage people stating that the Ebu gogo (speculated to be Homo floresiensis) still existed on Flores when the Portuguese arrived in the 17th century, but that they were killed off by the 20th century. Edited August 29 by palmsOrl 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoomsDave 6,201 Report post Posted August 30 Hmm. What are "species" anyway? (We argue about that all the time in the palm context.) Humanity has nearly died out at least once, according to genetic evidence. I recall reading that there was a time, thousands of years ago, when food ran very short, and people fell in numbers to about 50,000 worldwide. Things have clearly gotten better since. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoomsDave 6,201 Report post Posted August 30 On 8/28/2019 at 4:43 AM, Ed in Houston said: Most higher life forms understand the wisdom of not soiling one's own nest. Elon Musk's approach to humans lack of wisdom is to leave the nest by becoming an interplanetary species. It appears that the engineering challenges of colonizing Mars can be mastered soon. Medical problems of a months long space trip due to radiation exposure have not been resolved. Musk is at risk of creating the world's first interplanetary hospice facility. It should also be noted that most died within the first year of the establishment of the Jamestown colony in the new world. Ed in Houston Based on what I've heard about interplanetary space travel, we have an enormously long way to go. Star Trek this ain't. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gonzer 1,175 Report post Posted August 31 Once the cell phone was invented mankind was doomed. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
palmsOrl 645 Report post Posted August 31 On 8/30/2019 at 8:38 AM, DoomsDave said: Hmm. What are "species" anyway? (We argue about that all the time in the palm context.) Humanity has nearly died out at least once, according to genetic evidence. I recall reading that there was a time, thousands of years ago, when food ran very short, and people fell in numbers to about 50,000 worldwide. Things have clearly gotten better since. That genetic bottleneck in the human population might have been due to the supervolcanic eruption of Mount Toba 75,000 years ago. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoomsDave 6,201 Report post Posted August 31 1 hour ago, palmsOrl said: That genetic bottleneck in the human population might have been due to the supervolcanic eruption of Mount Toba 75,000 years ago. Yep, just found it! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toba_catastrophe_theory Imagine the horrors of something like that happening now. Powerless to do anything about it. "HOW WAS YOUR DAY, DEAR?" "Dear???" On the other hand, there's some evidence that it wasn't the cause of the bottleneck in population. If not, then what? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed in Houston 238 Report post Posted August 31 11 hours ago, Gonzer said: Once the cell phone was invented mankind was doomed. Yes it is known in future history books as the Zombie Apocalypse. Ed in Houston 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed in Houston 238 Report post Posted August 31 There was another bottleneck of sorts 5000 - 7000 years ago when almost all the men disappeared. " Modern men's genes suggest that something peculiar happened 5,000 to 7,000 years ago: Most of the male population across Asia, Europe and Africa seems to have died off, leaving behind just one man for every 17 women. " "The assumption that [the cause of the bottleneck] was warfare is a reasonable one," especially given the time period, he added." Why Do Genes Suggest Most Men Died Off 7,000 Years Ago? It appears that once the Sapiens had eliminated all other forms of humans by 30,000 years ago, they began to eliminate most of the men of their own species!!! Most European Men are Descended from just Three Bronze Age Warlords, New Study Reveals The Prolific Legacies of Ancient Conquerors, 11 Men Shaped Asian Genetics Ed in Houston 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JEFF IN MODESTO 225 Report post Posted November 9 Wow, Can you imagine... 17 women for every guy? As long as the guy had his own house... HAMMER TIME! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed in Houston 238 Report post Posted November 9 On 8/27/2019 at 6:39 AM, Ed in Houston said: Anthropologists tell the story that as little as 50,000 years ago there were 5 or more species of humans including Sapiens, Neanderthals, Erectus, Denisovans and others. Sapiens who originated in Africa and migrated to the rest of the old world eliminated the other versions of humanity by either out screwing or out gunning the rest of humanity until there were only Sapiens left by 30,000 years ago. Well of course the science is not settled and new DNA findings and analysis show that the Denisovans species of humans survived until only 15,000 years ago. Remember that Jericho is 10,000 years old so that is not so long ago as it sounds. The new DNA discoveries show that Denisovans coexisted with Sapiens until about 15,000 years ago and interbred with the Sapiens. Such recent interbreeding between Sapiens and Denisovans has resulted in a relatively high concentration of Denisovans DNA in present day indigenous Sapiens in New Guinea, about 6%. Present day Sapien and Deniovans hybrids in New Guinea. Evidence found of Denisovans interbreeding with humans in Southeast Asia more recently than thought Ed in Houston 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Silent Seed 142 Report post Posted November 9 Ed; interesting picture number four. Wonder how they knew how to paint their face like a Mandrill. That can't be a coincidence. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darold Petty 1,508 Report post Posted November 9 Ever notice how everything is more colorful closer to the equator ? plants, birds, fish, and H. sapiens ! Compare this to the grey tones of higher latitudes! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bubba 739 Report post Posted November 11 Very interesting material and the main articles take you additional places where you can go on and on and on... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SilverDragon 73 Report post Posted November 11 (edited) When the bones of man have returned to the dust and loam of the earth, the cephalopods will rise in our place. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/mar/28/alien-intelligence-the-extraordinary-minds-of-octopuses-and-other-cephalopods https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cephalopod_intelligence https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-mind-of-an-octopus/ Edited November 11 by SilverDragon 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darold Petty 1,508 Report post Posted November 18 Thanks for posting these great articles, 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SilverDragon 73 Report post Posted November 21 (edited) On 11/18/2019 at 9:28 AM, Darold Petty said: Thanks for posting these great articles, No problem. For as much as I love palms and plants, animals and particularly invertebrates are equally fascinating to me. It is almost uncanny how intelligent some cephalopods are. Edited November 21 by SilverDragon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sipalms 290 Report post Posted November 29 Why not just read the Bible then you won't have to worry about any speculation about what was, what is, and what is about to come. You don't have to. But it helps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
