Name of palm please ?

[Patrick Palms]

Please , is this a Golden cane palm? Grows widely here in Fuerteventura 

[palmsOrl]

Yes it is a golden cane palm, Dypsis lutescens.

[Patrick Palms]

I have seen they growing in full sun, is that normal? I always thought they prefer shade ?

[Pal Meir]

4 hours ago, Patrick Palms said:

I have seen they growing in full sun, is that normal? I always thought they prefer shade ?

Full sun in tropical Cairns (17°S):

[Patrick Palms]

If kept in large pot, can they grow well? And more easy to keep to nice size ? As i want one, for my terrace

[Patrick Palms]

Dypsis lutescens is easy to buy, but most are grown indoors..if i put straight outside , wont these die?,how do i get a indoor plant , used to full sun ?

[PalmatierMeg]

Start it in mostly shade, gradually move it part sun, mostly sun finally full sun. Give it time and patience.

[NOT A TA]

Patrick, I think the Dypsis lutescens would be a great palm for your terrace @ 28N.  While they're certainly not rare exotics members here would get excited about they're easy to grow, very tropical looking, and look nice when there's a breeze unlike some other palms that look like they're in a hurricane when there's a little breeze. Here @ 26N they look better than many other palms, bananas, etc. in the windy months because they don't seem to suffer as much from wind burn and full sun is no problem for juveniles & larger plants. Seedlings and small plants do better in shade or partial shade. Also growing in a pot (with good draining soil) you can water till it runs out the bottom and fills the tray without worrying about root rot issues as long as you let the tray dry out before watering again.

If you like these and they do well on your terrace you might want to try growing some from seed for fun. They're easy to grow from seed and could be done out on your terrace. The in ground ones in your area should be starting to drop seed pretty soon. They produce a lot of seed and you can just scoop a handful up under a tree if you want to try growing from seed. Germination rate is high in almost any soil and quick, just put them in a community pot, keep them moist,  and in a couple weeks you'll have seedlings. If they pop up and you want to make more just go pick up more seed, you've got a few months to collect and easily germinate fresh seeds.

Top pic below of potted plant is on the East side of my home and gets full morning sun till early afternoon before the shade of the house gets to it (probably similar to your terrace). Notice the tray is full from rain yesterday. I won't water it till the tray is dry for a day and if it rains again and fills the tray back up it's no big deal, I just leave it..  In ground pic of larger specimen is in full sun out in yard. I cut all the flowers off of it so I don't get a mess to clean or thousands of seedlings. Last pic (taken today) is large privacy screen planting to show the seeds and the seeds are just starting to drop.

[RedRabbit]

They're an easy grower here in FL. The only issue with them here can be the cold, but that won't be a problem where you're at. 

[Patrick Palms]

So young 4 feet high ones, can take strong winds , especially in winter evening lows of 15c ( 55f)  the winds on our terace , come from north east

[Patrick Palms]

One this size in pot , should do nicely. Gets shade in morning and full sun in afternoon..but mostly, always windy...My only worry , is most garden centers have them inside..Green house grown might need more protection??

[Jim in Los Altos]

1 hour ago, Patrick Palms said:

So young 4 feet high ones, can take strong winds , especially in winter evening lows of 15c ( 55f)  the winds on our terace , come from north east

They can handle occasional temperature drops to the lower 30s (1 to 3C) as long as there’s no frost so 15C is absolutely nothing to worry about. 

Potted specimens will grow more slowly and, since it’s a clumping palm, any stem that eventually grows too tall can be removed and there will be plenty of younger ones to take its place. If you want a similar palm that will never outgrow your terrace, try Chamaedorea cataractum. They have similar foliage and don’t form trunks. They will take sone sun when acclimated as well. 

Edited August 4, 2019 by Jim in Los Altos

[Patrick Palms]

IHow Does a Dypsis Baronii differ? Both look simular? Often called the sugar cane, i believe 

[Patrick Palms]

[Jim in Los Altos]

6 hours ago, Patrick Palms said:

D. baronii are great palms that are easy to grow and are smaller stature than D. lutescens. I'm not sure the availability in your area. They're not typically as commonly available as D. lutescens which is commercially grown in high numbers. 

[Patrick Palms]

Boronii are slower growing ? But can take winds equally as good ? 

[Jim in Los Altos]

9 minutes ago, Patrick Palms said:

Boronii are slower growing ? But can take winds equally as good ? 

My baronii fronds bend and damage easier in high winds than most of my palms. D. lutescens are really good in the wind. 

[Patrick Palms]

Ok, so best way for me, is to purchase some Golden Cane palms

[Patrick Palms]

Why is the Dypsis Lutescens  also called the Chrysalidocarpus Lutescens - Golden Cane Palm very confusing

[Patrick Palms]

is the areca palm the same as a Chrysalidocarpus Lutescens ? or dypsis Lutscens ? are they in fact all the same palm ? I thought the Areca was more of a greener stem ?

[Kim]

53 minutes ago, Patrick Palms said:

Why is the Dypsis Lutescens  also called the Chrysalidocarpus Lutescens - Golden Cane Palm very confusing

Old genus discarded 1995 in favor of Dypsis. https://wcsp.science.kew.org/namedetail.do?name_id=39866

Edit: Areca palm, golden cane palm, butterfly palm -- all these are common names applied to what is formally known as Dypsis lutescens.

[Patrick Palms]

So the common house plant , you see around the world, in offices, is in fact the golden cane palm

[Patrick Palms]

This Areca selling here, but stems looking Green, should they not be more yellow ?

[Kim]

It appears to be in shade, so the color will be less evident.

[Patrick Palms]

Could this be placed into sun without shock

[Patrick Palms]

Also, can side shoots,be trimed off, to reveal more of the cane like trunk ?

[Patrick Palms]

Baronii looks like a Areca, same cane like trunk

[NOT A TA]

1 hour ago, Patrick Palms said:

Also, can side shoots,be trimed off, to reveal more of the cane like trunk ?

Yes you can cut off new shoots you don't want.

Baronii natural habitat of a rain forest doesn't really match your no rain summer so I'd see if you can find people growing it in similar conditions to yours before trying it. http://www.palmpedia.net/wiki/Dypsis_baronii

[Patrick Palms]

I see.I know its widely grown in Australia.   Withour dry warm conditions,  Areca is best bet

[Pal Meir]

2 hours ago, Patrick Palms said:

I see.I know its widely grown in Australia.   Withour dry warm conditions,  Areca is best bet

You were asking for the name of the palm you had posted here: The correct name is Dypsis/Chrysalidocarpus lutescens. Why are you using repeatedly the wrong name Areca which belongs to a different genus?  Here a photo of a typical Areca (catechu):

[Patrick Palms]

Everyone says they are the same?  So golden cane palm is areca or dypsis l ? 

[Patrick Palms]

Pic you shown is a beetle nut palm

[Patrick Palms]

Dypsis Lutescens does look more like a Golden Cane Palm.  Young ones have the golden looking stems. Areca more greener

[Patrick Palms]

And the Sugar cane palm is the Dypsis Baronii  saw a youtube from Aussie of Palm guy selling and growing them. 

[Patrick Palms]

Golden Cane Palm - Dypsis Lutescens The Golden Cane comes from Madagascar; it grows naturally along streams in thickets. This palm is one of the most popular and attractive palms, a natural yellow color clustering trunked plant that is feathered-leaved. The root system is non-invasive, making it good around houses or pools for privacy and screening of neighbours. The Golden Cane grows to 12 metres and is an unarmed palm (no spikes or spines) making it easy to move and handle. It grows best in tropical and sub-tropical areas, but is good as an indoor palm anywhere.

[Patrick Palms]

You can see looks different to the areca ?

[Steve Mac]

On 8/5/2019 at 9:39 AM, Jim in Los Altos said:

"They have similar foliage and don’t form trunks".

Your's may be too young Jim.

Mine in the ground for many years, form ugly trunks that divide into more ugly trunks, (trunk division is unusual in palms)

they then become top heavy and do me a favour by snapping off at the base in strong winds. Always messy looking in my garden.

But in a pot your recommendation does still hold.

[NOT A TA]

18 minutes ago, gtsteve said:

Your's may be too young Jim.

Mine in the ground for many years, form ugly trunks that divide into more ugly trunks, (trunk division is unusual in palms)

they then become top heavy and do me a favour by snapping off at the base in strong winds. Always messy looking in my garden.

But in a pot your recommendation does still hold.

 

The saying  "a pic is worth a thousand words" couldn't be more true than in this case! When I read the post I thought  "ugly?....hmmmm.... really?"  Then I scrolled down... ahahaha  I think I'd plant something around them to screen the trunks.

Can you root the broken off trunks if you cut them at the splits?

[Steve Mac]

I didn't try mate,  but my feeling was that the ones that had broken off down low and had some roots already on them would have lived if I had wanted them.

Putting an axe through the middle would probably be ok too, to divide the clump. 

But I don't think that a higher division at the splits would be viable.

[NOT A TA]

31 minutes ago, gtsteve said:

I didn't try mate,  but my feeling was that the ones that had broken off down low and had some roots already on them would have lived if I had wanted them.

Putting an axe through the middle would probably be ok too, to divide the clump. 

But I don't think that a higher division at the splits would be viable.

I have some but no trunks. IF mine do trunk or I find a trunking one I can get permission to molest I'll try to see if they can be rooted.  Just out of curiosity.  Here we just make new ones from division. All mine are from neighbors who work in landscape maintenance. I pilfer their trucks occasionally at the end of the day looking for treasures and if they've been "weeding"  cataractum I'll pull them & pot them.

For Patrick I think the Cats are kinda small for what he's looking for and he been burning up Adonidia with wind & sun so Chamaedorea cataractum probably would not do much better.