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Beachpalm

Has anyone cut the sucker roots out and replanted them successfully?

How large were the suckers when they were cut?

Thanks for any input

 

 

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Rickybobby

Welcome to palm talk Pygmy dates don’t sucker. What you have is multiple palms planted together 

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Beachpalm

Thanks... so then I have maybe some seeds that have germinated.  

 

The main plant is 4 feet tall.  These new plants are each 4 to 6 inches coming from the base at a 45° angle.

The plants healthy and showing new growth up top.  Is it safe to delicately cut the new growth ?

 

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Steve Mac

It may not be a pygmy date palm, Phoenix robellini they usually don't do that.

It may be Phoenix reclinata they send out other trunks from the base.

But in any case I doubt that the suckers would live if removed unless they have roots attached.

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Pal Meir

Only Ph roebelenii var. »Mekong« has suckers. But I doubt theat yours might be that variant.

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PalmatierMeg

Show us a photo of the whole palm. I suspect your palm is not pure Pygmy date but a hybrid or another species. Pygmies do not sucker. It likely came from FL where almost all date palms are hybridized. In any case you can remove and compost the sucker but be prepared for more.

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Rickybobby

Wow interesting palm for what I can see 

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Beachpalm

Yes I actually bought it in Ft Myers.  Along with the Cat Palm in the background.

 

They withstood 2 days in the back of a pick-up truck in 90° heat and 70mph winds. 

Both got a little sunburn but seem to be doing ok in a sunroom.  A plant light investment is in my future.

 

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Pal Meir
2 hours ago, PalmatierMeg said:

Show us a photo of the whole palm. I suspect your palm is not pure Pygmy date but a hybrid or another species. Pygmies do not sucker. It likely came from FL where almost all date palms are hybridized. In any case you can remove and compost the sucker but be prepared for more.

Here a link to suckering pygmies (no hybrids):

https://www.rarepalmseeds.com/index.php?route=product/search&search=phoenix mekong

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DavidLee

I have read there is some Pygmy dates that do sucker. I don’t think you can find them in the nursery trade in Florida. I have never seen them before,

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PalmatierMeg
2 hours ago, Pal Meir said:

I know those, tried them too. Of the first batch I got some vicious non-pygmy that I ended up digging up & pitching out. From the lone germination of the second batch I got what appears to a pure non-clustering, slow growing pygmy date. Not trying those seeds again.

The potted palm in the photo does not look pure pygmy either. Probably a hybrid.

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Pal Meir
53 minutes ago, PalmatierMeg said:

I know those, tried them too. Of the first batch I got some vicious non-pygmy that I ended up digging up & pitching out. From the lone germination of the second batch I got what appears to a pure non-clustering, slow growing pygmy date. Not trying those seeds again.

The potted palm in the photo does not look pure pygmy either. Probably a hybrid.

I got a batch of 50 seeds from RPS on 2004-02-12. Within one month 42 seeds germinated. The leaves of the seedlings looked a bit softer than my normal Ph roebelenii seedlings, but when I gave them all away in 2008 to a botanical garden the seedlings were still too small for suckering. So I don’t know if they finally produced suckers like the palms you could see in Thailands markets.

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Pal Meir
1 hour ago, DavidLee said:

I have read there is some Pygmy dates that do sucker. I don’t think you can find them in the nursery trade in Florida. I have never seen them before,

These palms are of the Mekong type (from Palmpedia):

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Beachpalm

Its turns out that there were two other seeds and two separate plants intertwined within the mature palm root system.  Surgery was a success.

 

 

 

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Merlyn

I've seen that on other potted Roebellini at big box stores.  They initially planted 3 or 4 (or more) seeds and hoped for a standard "triple."  2 or 3 seeds germinated in the normal time and then another germinated much, much later.  

I do have one Roebellini double that appears to be growing several offsets out of the base.  I'll have to take some photos to look at later, but it was a double when I bought it and now has 3 more trunks coming out of the middle.  Very odd!

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