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[Love them palms]

A Facebook person I know is getting me 2 jubu x syagrus schizophylla palm liners, can't wait to receive them. Even though the hardiness is still unproven it will be interesting to find out if they survive a Pacific northwest zone 8b .  I will post pics when I receive them

Edited July 19, 2019 by Love them palms

[OC2Texaspalmlvr]

 ooh thats the only thing i have ever heard good coming from facebook haha cant wait to see the palms also. Are they Patric hybrids ? 

[Love them palms]

No they are not.but I have a few of Patrick's as well. Jubea x yatay, yatay x Jubea, Butia x parajubea sunkha, Jubea x sayagrus. This other guy does unique hybrids as well. I have a double trunk mule palm and a couple of jubutiagrus from him..his name is Einar Richard Lindberg 

[RJ]

1 hour ago, Love them palms said:

No they are not.but I have a few of Patrick's as well. Jubea x yatay, yatay x Jubea, Butia x parajubea sunkha, Jubea x sayagrus. This other guy does unique hybrids as well. I have a double trunk mule palm and a couple of jubutiagrus from him..his name is Einar Richard Lindberg 

I really like the YXJ that Patrick does. I purchased a couple from him last year, one is just going pinate now and it's really a nice looking palm, even at it's currently small size. It grows at a decent clip here in the the SE heat and humidity. 

[Love them palms]

1 hour ago, RJ said:

I really like the YXJ that Patrick does. I purchased a couple from him last year, one is just going pinate now and it's really a nice looking palm, even at it's currently small size. It grows at a decent clip here in the the SE heat and humidity. 

I had to repot all of Patrick's palms I received because the soil I had was staying wet too long, so I'm hoping by next spring they can put on some good growth to get in the outdoor ground next spring.. just hoping to break through the trachycarpus barrier and between his  and Einar Richard Lindberg there are great mule crosses to do just that

Edited July 19, 2019 by Love them palms

[OC2Texaspalmlvr]

6 hours ago, Love them palms said:

No they are not.but I have a few of Patrick's as well. Jubea x yatay, yatay x Jubea, Butia x parajubea sunkha, Jubea x sayagrus. This other guy does unique hybrids as well. I have a double trunk mule palm and a couple of jubutiagrus from him..his name is Einar Richard Lindberg 

How do you get palms from Einar ? Would love to see that double mule =)

[Love them palms]

Try to contact him on Facebook 

 

[RJ]

Looks like he uses an F3 for the mother. JuBuBuBu  The result is not a lot of jubaea blood in there at that point and the mother plant looks very Butia to me. That's the beauty of the patric hybrids, living on the west coast he access to a lot more jubaea blood. that's hard to come by in Florida 

[OC2Texaspalmlvr]

8 hours ago, Love them palms said:

Try to contact him on Facebook 

 

Well that prolly wont happen haha cant say i use facebook =/ 

 

1 hour ago, RJ said:

Looks like he uses an F3 for the mother. JuBuBuBu  The result is not a lot of jubaea blood in there at that point and the mother plant looks very Butia to me. That's the beauty of the patric hybrids, living on the west coast he access to a lot more jubaea blood. that's hard to come by in Florida 

Yeah im definitely looking for more Jubaea blood haha even tho it does slow it down some 

[Love them palms]

1 hour ago, OC2Texaspalmlvr said:

Well that prolly wont happen haha cant say i use facebook =/ 

 

Yeah im definitely looking for more Jubaea blood haha even tho it does slow it down some 

When He and I spoke on they phone he did mention that he has a sh#t load of Jubea pollen he uses for his hybrids and I do believe his palms do great up here but. But if all else fails, I do have patrics palms as well so I got a great set up for cold hardy palms

Edited July 20, 2019 by Love them palms

[PlantDad]

On 7/19/2019 at 10:29 AM, Love them palms said:

A Facebook person I know is getting me 2 jubu x syagrus schizophylla palm liners, can't wait to receive them. Even though the hardiness is still unproven it will be interesting to find out if they survive a Pacific northwest zone 8b .  I will post pics when I receive them

where in the northwest do you live? I live in Keizer, Oregon zone 8b, which borders Salem, Oregon and there are some large specimens of Butia capitata in the ground growing in the South Salem hills and unprotected to my knowledge.

[Love them palms]

6 hours ago, PlantDad said:

where in the northwest do you live? I live in Keizer, Oregon zone 8b, which borders Salem, Oregon and there are some large specimens of Butia capitata in the ground growing in the South Salem hills and unprotected to my knowledge.

Live in mukilteo, wa about 20 miles north of Seattle also a zone 8b area

[PlantDad]

14 hours ago, Love them palms said:

Live in mukilteo, wa about 20 miles north of Seattle also a zone 8b area

From all the research i have done, you and i can probably grow pure Jubaea chiliensis successfully outdoors with no protection. They are the hardiest pinnate leaved palms that can be grown. Even hardier than Butia.

[Love them palms]

9 hours ago, PlantDad said:

From all the research i have done, you and i can probably grow pure Jubaea chiliensis successfully outdoors with no protection. They are the hardiest pinnate leaved palms that can be grown. Even hardier than Butia.

Yes for sure we can grow Jubea. all my mules have Jubea cross in them -jubutiagrus,butijubagrus,Jubea x sayagrus, butia x Jubea, Jubea x butia yatay,butia yatay x Jubea, and super mules (BxJxBxS) are what I have -except for one which is butia x parajubea sunkha.all should be hardy enough for my area after a couple of years of frost protection until they at least hit 15 gallons. I also have trachycarpus fortunei, Trachycarpus nova and Trachycarpus princeps,Sabal Riverside  and got a Sabal palmetto yesterday. Should be interesting on the outcome of all these trees. 

[OC2Texaspalmlvr]

10 hours ago, Love them palms said:

Yes for sure we can grow Jubea. all my mules have Jubea cross in them -jubutiagrus,butijubagrus,Jubea x sayagrus, butia x Jubea, Jubea x butia yatay,butia yatay x Jubea, and super mules (BxJxBxS) are what I have -except for one which is butia x parajubea sunkha.all should be hardy enough for my area after a couple of years of frost protection until they at least hit 15 gallons. I also have trachycarpus fortunei, Trachycarpus nova and Trachycarpus princeps,Sabal Riverside  and got a Sabal palmetto yesterday. Should be interesting on the outcome of all these trees. 

Sounds like you have your cold hardy hybrid palms set for sure =) Your JxS will be a knockout . I think the veridct isnt out yet on the super mule. 

[Love them palms]

52 minutes ago, OC2Texaspalmlvr said:

Sounds like you have your cold hardy hybrid palms set for sure =) Your JxS will be a knockout . I think the veridct isnt out yet on the super mule. 

We shall see,hoping for the best on that super mule. Moultrie farms claimed it as cold hardy. Fingers crossed. 

[PlantDad]

12 hours ago, Love them palms said:

Yes for sure we can grow Jubea. all my mules have Jubea cross in them -jubutiagrus,butijubagrus,Jubea x sayagrus, butia x Jubea, Jubea x butia yatay,butia yatay x Jubea, and super mules (BxJxBxS) are what I have -except for one which is butia x parajubea sunkha.all should be hardy enough for my area after a couple of years of frost protection until they at least hit 15 gallons. I also have trachycarpus fortunei, Trachycarpus nova and Trachycarpus princeps,Sabal Riverside  and got a Sabal palmetto yesterday. Should be interesting on the outcome of all these trees. 

is there any place i can order mule palms and have them shipped to my location? Also how have you obtained all of your specimens? I would like to see some picture if you are ok with that.

[Love them palms]

17 minutes ago, PlantDad said:

is there any place i can order mule palms and have them shipped to my location? Also how have you obtained all of your specimens? I would like to see some picture if you are ok with that.

Patric Shafer  is a great one ,you can reach him at coolhybrids@yahoo.com and ask for a list.be patient cause it take him a couple days to respond and also there is Einar Richard Lindberg on Facebook, he has good ones,moultrie palms online and also Dave Alvarez on Facebook also, he is kinda my mentor. They all have great crosses 

[Chester B]

I see Dave is moving to the east coast. Too bad, doesn’t seem like there are too many of us in the PNW. 

[Love them palms]

6 hours ago, Chester B said:

I see Dave is moving to the east coast. Too bad, doesn’t seem like there are too many of us in the PNW. 

Don't sound like he's a big fan of the PNW lately, he's been a big help to me.came over once to give me a 15g parajubea and checked out my newly transplanted palm tree oasis,shame he had to dismantle his palms and give them away.saw it ,looked nice.well we still have Banana Joe so all is not lost

[PlantDad]

On 7/25/2019 at 6:00 PM, Love them palms said:

Patric Shafer  is a great one ,you can reach him at coolhybrids@yahoo.com and ask for a list.be patient cause it take him a couple days to respond and also there is Einar Richard Lindberg on Facebook, he has good ones,moultrie palms online and also Dave Alvarez on Facebook also, he is kinda my mentor. They all have great crosses 

Thank you so much. I will email him and make sure to be patient.

[PlantDad]

I just went to Raintree Tropical in Silverton, Oregon today and got a Trachycarpus wagnerianus, a Trachycarpus takil, a Chamaerops humilis 'Cerifera' and a Musa 'Double Mahoi' banana. I highly recommend checking this place out because they have so many different palms and exotic plants, some are even rare and uncommon. He has small to large sizes too. The owner and i are buddies so he gave me the trachycarpus wagnerianus and the Chamaerops humilis for $30 total, and he gave me the trachycarpus takil and Musa double mahoi for free. He is very generous with prices for customers also. All the plants i got were in 1 gallon pots.

[Love them palms]

59 minutes ago, PlantDad said:

I just went to Raintree Tropical in Silverton, Oregon today and got a Trachycarpus wagnerianus, a Trachycarpus takil, a Chamaerops humilis 'Cerifera' and a Musa 'Double Mahoi' banana. I highly recommend checking this place out because they have so many different palms and exotic plants, some are even rare and uncommon. He has small to large sizes too. The owner and i are buddies so he gave me the trachycarpus wagnerianus and the Chamaerops humilis for $30 total, and he gave me the trachycarpus takil and Musa double mahoi for free. He is very generous with prices for customers also. All the plants i got were in 1 gallon pots.

I may have to do that. Thanks for the info 

[PlantDad]

29 minutes ago, Love them palms said:

I may have to do that. Thanks for the info 

you are very welcome

[PlantDad]

14 hours ago, Love them palms said:

I may have to do that. Thanks for the info 

I guess that Trachycarpus takil is still not very common in cultivation, but he has a lot of them for sale. He also has xButyagrus nabbonnandi (Mule Palm), Brahea armata (Mexican Blue Palm), Butia capitata, Butia eriospathia, Chamaerops humilis (Green Colored), Jubaea chilensis (Chilean Wine Palm), Livistona australis (Australian Fan Palm), Parajubaea cocoides, Phoenix canariensis, Phoenix reclinata (Sengal Date Palm), Sabal minor (Dwarf palmetto), Sabal minor var. louisiana, Sabal palmetto, Trachycarpus,  latisectus, Trachycarpus fortunei, Trachycarpus martianus, Trithrinax acanthocoma, Washingtonia filifera, and much more. I even saw some Trachycarpus nanus which are also uncommon in cultivation. I am unsure if he was selling those though, i never asked.

[Love them palms]

3 hours ago, PlantDad said:

I guess that Trachycarpus takil is still not very common in cultivation, but he has a lot of them for sale. He also has xButyagrus nabbonnandi (Mule Palm), Brahea armata (Mexican Blue Palm), Butia capitata, Butia eriospathia, Chamaerops humilis (Green Colored), Jubaea chilensis (Chilean Wine Palm), Livistona australis (Australian Fan Palm), Parajubaea cocoides, Phoenix canariensis, Phoenix reclinata (Sengal Date Palm), Sabal minor (Dwarf palmetto), Sabal minor var. louisiana, Sabal palmetto, Trachycarpus,  latisectus, Trachycarpus fortunei, Trachycarpus martianus, Trithrinax acanthocoma, Washingtonia filifera, and much more. I even saw some Trachycarpus nanus which are also uncommon in cultivation. I am unsure if he was selling those though, i never asked.

I have the trachycarpus fortunei and nova,and a princeps as well. Tried for a takil but they are a hard find not unless you want to sprout seeds

[Chester B]

Some of those palms are pretty iffy here without protection but it is nice to see some variety locally. I didn’t realize Silverton is so close so may take a trip. Real takil are pretty rare, many of them being sold are just fortunei. 

[Love them palms]

53 minutes ago, Chester B said:

Some of those palms are pretty iffy here without protection but it is nice to see some variety locally. I didn’t realize Silverton is so close so may take a trip. Real takil are pretty rare, many of them being sold are just fortunei. 

I would stay away from stuff like the xbutiagrus nabbonnandi, or the washie,.I have enough mules alot of them still in pots,a Trachycarpus fortunei, 4 trachycarpus nova, and 3 trachy princeps 2 of which are still in pots,1 Mediterranean fan,4 sabal Riverside, 1 palmetto so all in all I think I am set

[PlantDad]

it is a good place to go. The owner makes sure to get genuine seed. He grows most of the palms from seed. I would make a trip over there if you can. i would love to know more about your mule palms and your experiences with them because i have been interested in them and i would like some advice. 

[Love them palms]

1 hour ago, PlantDad said:

it is a good place to go. The owner makes sure to get genuine seed. He grows most of the palms from seed. I would make a trip over there if you can. i would love to know more about your mule palms and your experiences with them because i have been interested in them and i would like some advice. 

 I am more of a newbie at doing Palm trees.all I know is what I was educated about.but from what I been told is any crosses with Jubea in it are hardy enough for zone 8b. example-jubea x sayagrus, Jubea x Butia, Jubea x butia x syagrus would be great choices.  Butia x Jubea, Butia x Jubea x sayagrus or a mix like that is also good, you treat them like any other palm. Most are fast growing, maybe a little slower up here in my area. During the first few winters when it gets to 32-30 degrees you want protection until about 15 gallons then they should be good (anyone who wants to school me I welcome the advice) the info I gave you on where to contact have the kind you need.

Edited July 28, 2019 by Love them palms

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Received them today -jubu x schizophylla 

[PlantDad]

On 7/27/2019 at 1:51 PM, Love them palms said:

I have the trachycarpus fortunei and nova,and a princeps as well. Tried for a takil but they are a hard find not unless you want to sprout seeds

You should go to Rain Tree Tropical because they have trachycarpus takil in at least gallon sized pots, they also have mature trachycarpus takil growing on the property.