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Clackamas Palms


Chester B

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We have a lot of Trachycarpus palms planted around here but you don't often see much else.  To my surprise I was driving on the backside of the Clackamas Town Center and across the street an office building has a few palmy surprises.

There were many triple plantings of Trachycarpus with seedlings all around their bases, plus a pretty huge Chamaerops cluster.

The Sabals were a grouping of three as well and had seed stalks from last year full of seed.  Do you think its still viable?  I grabbed a couple and crushed them between my fingers and the outer husk fell away but inside were small hard seeds.

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50 minutes ago, Chester B said:

We have a lot of Trachycarpus palms planted around here but you don't often see much else.  To my surprise I was driving on the backside of the Clackamas Town Center and across the street an office building has a few palmy surprises.

There were many triple plantings of Trachycarpus with seedlings all around their bases, plus a pretty huge Chamaerops cluster.

The Sabals were a grouping of three as well and had seed stalks from last year full of seed.  Do you think its still viable?  I grabbed a couple and crushed them between my fingers and the outer husk fell away but inside were small hard seeds.

If the seeds were hard it is possible they will sprout, especially if they were still surrounded with the fruit.  In the event that they don't, if you want Sabal palmetto seeds they'll come off the trees in droves here ~November.

Lakeland, FL

USDA Zone 1990: 9a  2012: 9b  2023: 10a | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (Jan. 1985, Dec.1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a

30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F

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19 minutes ago, kinzyjr said:

If the seeds were hard it is possible they will sprout, especially if they were still surrounded with the fruit.  In the event that they don't, if you want Sabal palmetto seeds they'll come off the trees in droves here ~November.

Yeah I might snag them, but I don't really need any more minor.  Aside from my own Sabals I've never seen another anywhere in the Portland area.

I might have to take you up on that offer!

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7 minutes ago, Chester B said:

Yeah I might snag them, but I don't really need any more minor.  Aside from my own Sabals I've never seen another anywhere in the Portland area.

I might have to take you up on that offer!

If you want Sabal palmetto seedlings, I have a few I could send you now.  If you want seeds, I'll grab a bag full in November for you if you can remind me on PM.

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Lakeland, FL

USDA Zone 1990: 9a  2012: 9b  2023: 10a | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (Jan. 1985, Dec.1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a

30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F

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2 hours ago, Chester B said:

Do you think its still viable?

I agree with Kinzy.  I just germinated a Sabal mexicana seed that I collected last month and the trees typically drop fruit in the fall like the palmettos in FL.  I assume it was 8 month old seed since there was still dried fruit attached, but it could have been older I suppose.

 

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Amazing.

 

Fla. climate center: 100-119 days>85 F
USDA 1990 hardiness zone 9B
Current USDA hardiness zone 10a
4 km inland from Indian River; 27º N (equivalent to Brisbane)

Central Orlando's urban heat island may be warmer than us

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On 7/11/2019 at 11:00 AM, kinzyjr said:

If you want Sabal palmetto seedlings, I have a few I could send you now.  If you want seeds, I'll grab a bag full in November for you if you can remind me on PM.

if you have any left i am willing to take some off your hands. but if you have already found homes for all of them then that is ok too.

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1 hour ago, PlantDad said:

if you have any left i am willing to take some off your hands. but if you have already found homes for all of them then that is ok too.

I have one left and you are welcome to have it.  Send me a PM with a shipping address and I'll try to have it out tomorrow.  Come November, I could probably send you a whole sandwich bag of seeds pretty cheap if you want those.

Lakeland, FL

USDA Zone 1990: 9a  2012: 9b  2023: 10a | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (Jan. 1985, Dec.1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a

30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F

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thank so much.  you can right it like this: Tanner Davidson c/o 2175 Maplewood Dr S Apt 207 Salem Oregon 97306. you have to put the c/o because the mail guy at the complex will send it back if you dont put the c/o for some reason. also if you have a way to get me the tracking number also that would be great. I will consider the seeds also. 

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21 hours ago, kinzyjr said:

I have one left and you are welcome to have it.  Send me a PM with a shipping address and I'll try to have it out tomorrow.  Come November, I could probably send you a whole sandwich bag of seeds pretty cheap if you want those.

how quickly do the seeds germinate? and how fast do they grow?

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30 minutes ago, PlantDad said:

how quickly do the seeds germinate? and how fast do they grow?

The seeds can take anywhere from 2 weeks to 2 years to germinate.  Roughly 70% of the seeds should germinate within 2 months if recent history holds up.  If the seeds are harvested immediately after they turn ripe, you eventually get very close to 100% success.  Speed of growth - slow to medium.  Sabals are notorious for "slow pot syndrome", meaning that they grow slower in the pot than they do in the ground.  Their growth moves a little faster if you keep the soil moist during the warm season here.

Lakeland, FL

USDA Zone 1990: 9a  2012: 9b  2023: 10a | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (Jan. 1985, Dec.1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a

30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F

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