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Does anyone know why these date seeds are seem so long and thin? Most of the dates that I eat are labeled Medjool and have larger seeds that are wider and larger than these. Are these just a different variety? Here is a picture of the package they came in and the seeds themselves. 

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kinzyjr

If the fruit is thick and flavorful, likely Medjool.  If it is kind of dry and grainy, probably Deglet Noor.  Not sure of the other varieties they might grow out there, but those are the two varieties I've picked up at the store.

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Darold Petty

These date are most likely Deglet Noor.  I don't believe that Medjool is dryed and packaged, I  have only seen them sold fresh and loose. I strongly prefer the Medjool date.

  The surface of Deglet Noor (epicarp) is golden amber in color, while Medjool is more plum to purple color.

Now If I could only acquire some Barhi dates ! 

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Silas_Sancona
14 minutes ago, kinzyjr said:

If the fruit is thick and flavorful, likely Medjool.  If it is kind of dry and grainy, probably Deglet Noor.  Not sure of the other varieties they might grow out there, but those are the two varieties I've picked up at the store.

Agree w/ kinzyjr, tough to say exactly which variety. Used to have a better feel for the varieties grown back in CA but honestly not a huge fan of Dates myself..  That said, our super rare Black Sphinx is my personal favorite. While seed grown plants couldn't ( and shouldn't )  be called the same thing, would encourage anyone to get your hands on seed of this variety if you can. Think they are sold w/ seed intact locally. Black Sphinx itself may disappear in the future. 

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Silas_Sancona
4 minutes ago, Darold Petty said:

These date are most likely Deglet Noor.  I don't believe that Medjool is dryed and packaged, I  have only seen them sold fresh and loose. I strongly prefer the Medjool date.

  The surface of Deglet Noor (epicarp) is golden amber in color, while Medjool is more plum to purple color.

Now If I could only acquire some Barhi dates ! 

Might check out / contact Sphinx Date Co.  Palm Pantry here in Phoenix in September-October. They have Barhi listed in the "specialty dates"  section of their website.. 

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clevelandtropicsmaybe

Maybe you can send a picture of the dates? To me the seeds and what I can see of the fruit looks like deglet noor, the dates I buy. I just germinated a seed that looks just like those. 

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Phoenikakias

Nixon had a list of all imported varieties in the USA.  I think possible identity also one common Egyptian variety, but I do not remember name.

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Chester B
3 hours ago, Darold Petty said:

These date are most likely Deglet Noor.  I don't believe that Medjool is dryed and packaged, I  have only seen them sold fresh and loose. I strongly prefer the Medjool date.

  The surface of Deglet Noor (epicarp) is golden amber in color, while Medjool is more plum to purple color.

Now If I could only acquire some Barhi dates ! 

Amazon is selling Barhi dates.  Do you know if the trees will come true from seed?

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kinzyjr
Just now, Chester B said:

Amazon is selling Barhi dates.  Do you know if the trees will come true from seed?

They don't come true to type from seeds - only offsets.

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Chester B
Just now, kinzyjr said:

They don't come true to type from seeds - only offsets.

Too bad.  I heard female date palms of name varieties are pricey and hard to get.

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PalmTreeDude

Here are the dates, they were not as good as the ones labeled medjool, but I couldn't tell if that was because of the (unlabeled) variety or because they were stored for a long time or something like that. They are kind of tough. 

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kinzyjr
Just now, PalmTreeDude said:

Here are the dates, they were not as good as the ones labeled medjool, but I couldn't tell if that was because of the (unlabeled) variety or because they were stored for a long time or something like that. They are kind of tough. 

I'm 99% sure that's Deglet Noor now.

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Darold Petty

Yep, those are Deglet Noor.  How unfortunate that the least good date is the most available !  :(   Honestly I wouldn't care for dates If I had only eaten Deglet Noor! 

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Chester B

I didn't realize the difference until today.  For sure the deglet noor is the worst.

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Rickybobby

I learned something today. Thanks 

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clevelandtropicsmaybe

Yup that's Deglet Noor and I'm eating some right now. I have never tired medjool and so with nothing to compare them to, Deglet Noor tastes good to me.

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Cikas
16 hours ago, PalmTreeDude said:

Here are the dates, they were not as good as the ones labeled medjool, but I couldn't tell if that was because of the (unlabeled) variety or because they were stored for a long time or something like that. They are kind of tough. 

Deglet Noor. I myself are not a fan of that variety. 

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kinzyjr

I've had both.  I heavily prefer Medjool as well.  They are often referred to as the "Cadillac of dates", meaning a premium product.

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Kris

About 15 or 18 years back,after consuming the fruit part of the same dates as seen in the above stills.I had germinated quite some saplings of this variety.And had them distributed most to like minded friends here,who loved to grow date palm trees.But unfortunately the one planted in our garden which has become quite big now turned out to be a male date palm.The trunk of this variety is really big and carries lot of silvery blue leaves which hardly dries up that easily.I would suggest you all refrain from growing this variety in your house. Rather buy offshoots from High yield varieties carrying less of leaves.And planting male and female date palms in the same property.

Here is the trimming video of that palm..

https://youtu.be/nT9M7R6Rcic

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