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Whats your rarest palm?


Howeadypsis

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Mine is Chamaedorea tenerrima (here, about 5 months since germination):

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Seen here as an adult on the cover of the July 1991 Principes:

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Tom

Bowie, Maryland, USA - USDA z7a
hardiestpalms.com

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The rarest palm that i posses at the moment is 'Corypha Macropoda' and here is a still of it ! :)

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Love,

Kris :)

Hi Kris, how old is your C. macropoda, thanks, Ed

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Brahea sp. Super Silver

They look like leaves of grass they are so small. Maybe by the end of fall I'll have something to photograph....

John Case

Brentwood CA

Owner and curator of Hana Keu Garden

USDA Zone 9b more or less, Sunset Zone 14 in winter 9 in summer

"Its always exciting the first time you save the world. Its a real thrill!"

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mines a variegated sago palm, i know not a real palm lol

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Los Angeles, CA and Myrtle Beach, SC.

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Hi Kris, how old is your C. macropoda, thanks, Ed

Dear Ed :)

Its approx. around 4 to 5 months old and the hardest part is that they germinate late & very erratically.But once they put out spear they start taking full sunlight with temperatures reaching as high as 108 degrees farenheat.But the soil medium it likes the most is clayee & every day watering..Its out & out a pure tropical palm.

Love,

Kris :)

love conquers all..

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Wow Tom

Love those Chamies!!! Now the hunt begins.

Cheers

Dennis

Sub-tropical

Summer rainfall 1200mm

Annual average temp 21c

30 South

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My rarest palm is a lemurophoenix. A very special palm.

I know, I know I'll have a bit of a wait on my hands but it will be worth it.

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Palms are the king of trees

Brod

Brisbane, Australia

28 latitude, sub tropical

summer average 21c min - 29c max

winter average 10c min - 21c max

extremes at my place 5c - 42c

1100 average rainfall

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Tahina

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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Syagrus flexuosa - seems to be rare in cultivation at least.

South Arm, Tasmania, Australia - 42° South

Mild oceanic climate, with coastal exposure.

 

Summer: 12°C (53°F) average min, to 21°C (70°F) average daily max. Up to 40°C (104°F max) rarely.

 

Winter: 6°C (43°F) average min, to 13°C (55°F) average daily max. Down to 0°C (32°F) occasionally, some light frost.

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Iwould love to add Corypha macropoda :yay: to my list. Kris is the seed difficult to locate? :unsure:

Ron. :)

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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Iwould love to add Corypha macropoda :yay: to my list. Kris is the seed difficult to locate? :unsure:

Ron. :)

Dear Ron :)

Iam glad you too are a C.M palm fan like me! :winkie: To get these seeds is not difficult at all but one has to wait around 70 years to get seeds from our garden here,since the one growing here is a little sapling.And all the known C.M in and around here have all died.Only one that is 6 to 8 feet tall is growing in our horticulture society no hard trunk yet. :huh:

But this is a small world,we meet things often which we love the most.And nowdays after joining this forum iam always keeping my eyes & ears open..

And if you like to see visuals of that palm just google search or use our search engine in our forum.I have added lots of stills of that palm.

Here is a still specially for you.. :winkie:

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And by the way their is another intreasting corypha Locomtei,this is native to thailand,and i love this variety too,here is a visual for you ! :hmm:

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Above still courtesy : kom thai palm(komikrit).

Lots of love,

Kris :)

love conquers all..

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Thanks for the info Kris. I don't think my body will last 70 more years to see your prize palm seed. :lol:

Kindest regards,

Ron. :D

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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Ravenea xerophila! Examples taller than 4 feet are hard to find;even in Florida.

aztropic

Mesa,Arizona

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Mesa, Arizona

 

Temps between 29F and 115F each year

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Ravenea xerophila! Examples taller than 4 feet are hard to find;even in Florida.

aztropic

Mesa,Arizona

Unless you are Gary Levine! lol. :floor:

Seriously AZ, lookin good!

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

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I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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I think Gary's are probably the best examples this country has to offer! They are truly spectacular.

aztropic

Mesa,Arizona

Mesa, Arizona

 

Temps between 29F and 115F each year

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I would like to add a couple more.

Tahina spectabalis and Livistona endauensis of which both are small, but doing well in the ground.

Jeff

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

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I consider the following palms in my collection as very rare because I don't think it will be easy to obtain seeds from these species again:

Oenocarpus circumtextus, Laccosperma laeve, Attalea x voeksii, Sclerosperma mannii

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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Every time I come on here I hear of a new unknown palm with an unpronounceable name, and as a relative newbie to palms(tho Ive been into plants since I was a kid!) I was wondering what your rarest, most spectacular or unusual palm is?

Also, why dont I get email notiications of new posts, even tho Ive gone thru my profile settings.,

No e-mail notifications for me either for about a month now, and my settings are all OK, too! Very ponderous!

Paul

Paul, The Palm Doctor @ http://www.thewisegardener.com

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I would like to add a couple more.

Tahina spectabalis and Livistona endauensis of which both are small, but doing well in the ground.

Jeff

I guess Tahina spec., (like Jeff's) is my rarest too but not my favourite.

Paul

Paul, The Palm Doctor @ http://www.thewisegardener.com

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Considering that in Mexico a bottle palm and bismarckia nobilis are "rare palms" These would be my rarest palms:

Lemurropheonyx halleuxii 3 gls

Pelagodoxa henryana 5 gls

Tahina spectabilis

also a bunch of dypsis sp white betafaka prestoniana etc

:)

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Butia microspadix, Butia eriospatha x B.microspadix (I have 5 and I know there are a few around the globe), Tahina spectabilis and a little Juania australis sprout! :)

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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Iwould love to add Corypha macropoda :yay: to my list. Kris is the seed difficult to locate? :unsure:

Ron. :)

Dear Ron :)

Iam glad you too are a C.M palm fan like me! :winkie: To get these seeds is not difficult at all but one has to wait around 70 years to get seeds from our garden here,since the one growing here is a little sapling.And all the known C.M in and around here have all died.Only one that is 6 to 8 feet tall is growing in our horticulture society no hard trunk yet. :huh:

But this is a small world,we meet things often which we love the most.And nowdays after joining this forum iam always keeping my eyes & ears open..

And if you like to see visuals of that palm just google search or use our search engine in our forum.I have added lots of stills of that palm.

Here is a still specially for you.. :winkie:

IMG_0016.jpg

And by the way their is another intreasting corypha Locomtei,this is native to thailand,and i love this variety too,here is a visual for you ! :hmm:

Picture245s_Komi.jpg

Above still courtesy : kom thai palm(komikrit).

Lots of love,

Kris :)

I'm always impressed with how absolutely huge Corypha is. The first one I saw was at FTG - I had to take two pictures and splice them together to get the full effect. That second shot is...what...50' tall? ...and it doesn't even have much of a trunk yet. Enormous leaves. Are there any larger?

Tom

Bowie, Maryland, USA - USDA z7a
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Actinokentia "Diva" not much to look at.

So far.

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Eric,

If that is a Butia X Coconut, you would be only the second person on the planet that I know of that has one. How about a little more commentary on it? Did you do the cross yourself and under what conditions are you growing it and where? Give us some more info. I'm not doubting that you have one, but would just like some history on it.

Thanks,

Dick

Richard Douglas

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Eric,

If that is a Butia X Coconut, you would be only the second person on the planet that I know of that has one. How about a little more commentary on it? Did you do the cross yourself and under what conditions are you growing it and where? Give us some more info. I'm not doubting that you have one, but would just like some history on it.

Thanks,

Dick

Hello Dick,

It is the Butia X Coconut. I believe Mark Heath says he has a possible cross.

This cross was done by a pollinator who wishes to remain unknown. As far as the story goes this was his second attempt at it. The first batch none of the seedlings made it past one year of age. The individual who did the pollination gurantees it is what he says it is and has never given me any reason not to believe so. It was hand pollinated and the Butias were bagged. He is also not a palm grower which is why he distributed 4 of these seedlings to individuals he thought would get them to a mature age and he kept 3 of them for himself.

However I am a rookie at growing palms and I just got lucky as I received mine on May 30th of this year as a wedding gift and it has just recently starting pushing its fourth leaf. The seedling is about 1 1/2 years old.

I live in zone 8 pacific northwest San Juan Island. This seedling has remained outdoors since May 30th of this year on my balcony. It has recieved no fertilizer and we have had one of the hottest summers on record with temps in the triple digits.

I do not however think this palm even as an adult can stand the winters here and will be brought indoors for atleast a few years even then I doubt I will be able to test how hardy it is until I get my hands on another one as I do not want to loose the only one I have.

I believe the other seedlings are all located in Florida of which I believe are being shade house grown until they are a little larger. I am in contact with one of the other individuals who also recieved one of these who should be sending me some photos of his.

I have begged him to do some more and he has agreed once he gets some more fresh Cocos pollen. If there is anyone if Florida that has access please let me know. I will fly down myself and collect it.

Erik

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Erik,

This is indeed exciting news, especially since several have been distributed around. I would imagine South or Central Florida or warmer places in S. Calif. would be the ideal locations to test this hybrid. I would think San Juan Island would be pushing it, even in the summer if your night time temps. get as low as they do in N. Calif., however you never know until they are tested.

Keep us informed.

Dick

Richard Douglas

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Erik,

This is indeed exciting news, especially since several have been distributed around. I would imagine South or Central Florida or warmer places in S. Calif. would be the ideal locations to test this hybrid. I would think San Juan Island would be pushing it, even in the summer if your night time temps. get as low as they do in N. Calif., however you never know until they are tested.

Keep us informed.

Dick

That is the huge problem with doing a new Hybrid. Not knowing, untested, wondering if it will fruit or not, what charcteristics it will display.

As soon as I track down some more Cocos pollen he will have another go at it.

ERik

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Rarest was Voanioala gerardii, but they both died. Next was Lemurophoenix, but that died. Now it would be either Metroxylon vitiense, Pseudophoenix eckmanii (two blades of grass), or most likely Ptychococcus lepidotus (two doing well). I also have what was sold as Nenga macrocarpa, a small one gallon palm that is heavily clustering. That may actually be the rarest of mine. Pretty slow growing little palm. Socratea exhorriza are pretty rare here I suppose...

Jason

Skell's Bells

 

 

Inland Central Florida, 28N, 81W. Humid-subtropical climate with occasional frosts and freezes. Zone 9b.

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My rarest palm is Lepidorrhachis mooreana . It grows 1 leaf a year in my garden.

chris.oz

Bayside Melbourne 38 deg S. Winter Minimum 0 C over past 6 years

Yippee, the drought is over.

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I've posted a photo before, but not this one, I don't think...  I'm really amazed at how happy this palm is outside here.  When the most recent leaf fell off there was a faint sliver of a spathe(?) so I think that this palm is starting to think about flowering.  By the way, I got this palm from Jerry Andersen, the seed came to him labeled as Dypsis 'menalaingo'.

Matt

Wow, this palm is so uniquely beautiful; wish I had one.

Lee

Located at 1500' elevation in Kona on the west side of the Big Island of Hawaii.

Average annual rainfall is about 60"; temperature around 80 degrees.

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Wow Jason:

Those Oenocarpus of yours are looking great, enjoying the winter in amazonic Perth (!)...and they are still sprouting? I've lost a few of mine during the adaptation to potting mix, these are difficult creatures...

My rarest palms are not my favorites...I just don't notice anybody else around here growing them: Bactris ferruginea, Lepidocaryum tenue, Rheinhardtia simplex, Euterpe oleracea green fruit (Açaí branco), Bactris glassmanii, Cocos nucifera "apple" hybrid, etc.

I wouldn't mind growing a "common" Lodoicea like Bo's though...

Lepidocaryum tenue:

Gileno,

Thanks for introducing me to Lepidocaryum tenue and Rheinhardtia simplex which are both wonderful. I have not found any good photos of B. ferruginea and glassmanii though. Do you have any you could post?

Thanks,

Lee

Lee

Located at 1500' elevation in Kona on the west side of the Big Island of Hawaii.

Average annual rainfall is about 60"; temperature around 80 degrees.

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Hard question!

How do you define rare?

Rare in the wild? ie Total number of mature individuals known in the wild is very low?

Rare in cultivation ie not grown by anybody even though they are not rare in the wild?

Rare in cultivation in your particular country or area but not rare elsewhere in cultivation?

Lemurophoenix sp. not halleuxii who else is growing this, and where?

Dypsis sp 215...I only know of one other plant in cultivation beside mine, but it may be growing all over Madagascar...

Astrocaryum murumuru...haven't seen too many in cultivation, even though I'm sure they are not rare in the wild

Pritchardia viscosa - almost extinct in the wild...but how many already in cultivation?

You sure are dragging up some old threads Moose... oldies but goodies!

Daryl

Gold Coast, Queensland Latitude 28S. Mild, Humid Subtropical climate. Rainfall - not consistent enough!

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HELP!!! What are CIDP's, OCWS, and Foxyladys?

Lee

Located at 1500' elevation in Kona on the west side of the Big Island of Hawaii.

Average annual rainfall is about 60"; temperature around 80 degrees.

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HELP!!! What are CIDP's, OCWS, and Foxyladys?

CIDP = Canary Island Date Palm

OCWS = unnamed Dypsis species (???)

Foxylady = hybrid Wodyetia bifurcata x Veitchia arecina (???)

Can someone verify?

Tom

Bowie, Maryland, USA - USDA z7a
hardiestpalms.com

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HELP!!! What are CIDP's, OCWS, and Foxyladys?

CIDP = Canary Island Date Palm

OCWS = unnamed Dypsis species (???)

Foxylady = hybrid Wodyetia bifurcata x Veitchia arecina (???)

Can someone verify?

CIDP = Phoenix canariensis (Canary Island Date Palm)

OCWS = Dypsis sp. "Orange Crownshaft White Stem"

Foxylady = Wodyetia bifurcata x Veitchia arecina (Probably Veitchia joannis as well, given the similarities.)

My rarest palms are based on availability of plant or seed, climatic requirements, germination and/or cultivation success rate:

Areca macrocalyx (red)

Chamaedorea angustisecta

Chamaedorea tuerckheimii

Dictyocarum lamarckianum

Dypsis thiryana

Geonoma undata

Licuala mattenensis v. mapu

Pelagodoxa henryana

Pinanga veitchii

Pritchardia viscosa (reputedly)

Trachycarpus princeps

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Many thanks, Tom and John!

Lee

Lee

Located at 1500' elevation in Kona on the west side of the Big Island of Hawaii.

Average annual rainfall is about 60"; temperature around 80 degrees.

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