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I saw a picture on Google of these palms, then I looked at them on street view, and I can't figure out what they are. Does anyone know? 

 

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Ben in Norcal

Livistona something is my guess

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Silas_Sancona

Brahea??  First one looks brandegeei-ish, imo.  Similar Green top of frond / silvery underside to some i have seen on specimens locally, except for the really clean trunk base..   

Second one, not sure..  maybe also Brahea,  eh?

Some B. armata next door ( stunted looking specimen in front of the house w/ tall Archontophoenix sp. ) Taller, better looking specimen in front of the house across the street also.

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Ben in Norcal
5 minutes ago, Silas_Sancona said:

Brahea??  First one looks brandegeei-ish, imo.  Similar Green top of frond / silvery underside to some i have seen on specimens locally, except for the really clean trunk base..   

Second one, not sure..  maybe also Brahea,  eh?

Some B. armata next door ( stunted looking specimen in front of the house w/ tall Archontophoenix sp. ) Taller, better looking specimen in front of the house across the street also.

I think you are right, some kind of Brahea, I revise my guess!

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Kim

Not Brahea brandegeei, nor armata. Sabal of some sort? I can't see if there are spines on the petioles or not.

Location?

 

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Silas_Sancona
On 5/25/2019 at 7:36 PM, Kim said:

Not Brahea brandegeei, nor armata. Sabal of some sort? I can't see if there are spines on the petioles or not.

Location?

 

On Google, Coronado area, just inland from the Beach. Street ( F Ave ) veers left from Ocean Blvd. Isabella Ave veers right.  Palms in question are next to the 4th house from the corner ( F Ave / Ocean Blvd. ), on the left.  B. armata are in front of other homes nearby.. or across the Street.

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Ben in Norcal

Those are definitely not Sabals, petiole bases look nothing like a Sabal IMO.  They are Braheas; I'm sure Nathan is right.

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Silas_Sancona

Found some pictures of the B. brandegeei in Glendale for comparison. 

Overall look:
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Closer detail of the silvery undersides of the leaves:  Somewhat of a bad angle. When i have been at this location earlier in the morning, the silver shows up better.
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Closer detail of the irregular teeth along the leaf stalks.
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Obviously you can't see those in the pictures, if they exist. The somewhat "hooked" leaf bases i can see attached to the trunk of the first palm, and overall look to the rest of the remaining leaf stalks looks very Brahea imo..  Again though, could be something else..

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Kim

Ah! Coronado, California. Okay, Brahea certainly possible. Location makes a big difference.  I was thinking these were east coast pics. Still, doesn't really look like brandegeei to me, hard to explain why... There are many in my neighborhood. I will check them out.

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Kim

Following up on this thread after revisiting palms in my neighborhood that I believed to be Brahea  brandegeei, I now know I had the ID mixed up. Years ago a SoCal palm grower gave me the name for the palms and I either mis-remembered the name or was misinformed. Either way, this palm is different from the one Palm TreeDude asked about. 

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Not sure what the term for this fibrous sheathing is, but it gives the Palm a distinctive look.

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Flowers forming

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Note the scaly tomentum on the petioles  

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These palms are perhaps 40 years old, believe it or not.  As you can see, growth is extremely slow, surviving only on the scant annual rainfall.  Very tight rings on a clean trunk.

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So I have an idea which Brahea this is, but would like to hear from those better versed in the genus.

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JubaeaMan138

The last picture look like braces edulis?

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Silas_Sancona

Thinking Brahea edulis as well.. Roughly the same height as specimens which used to grow across from my grandparents in San Jose before that neighbor had them cut down.. Never gave 'em much thought until researching Brahea years ago, would have collected seed otherwise.

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Kim

Brahea edulis was my corrected guess also.

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