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Bentinckia condapanna


realarch

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Been awhile since B. condapanna has been on the board, so I thought I'd revisit the topic.

Lucky here in Hawaii as these palms are fast, robust, and rather trouble free. Acquired seed back in 2010 and started planting 1 gallons back in 2012. There are seven in this grouping, some planted at a later date. They've been flowering for awhile now, but no seed yet. 

Here are a few photos, mostly looking up at them these days. 

I remember seeing promising photos of specimens in Calif., so feel free to post updates. Also, how bout some photos....Kim, Jason, 'Orange Bucket Mike'?

Tim

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Tim

Hilo, Hawaii

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I never was really a big fan of these but every time I see a nicely grown one I think I might have to get a couple for the garden..

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And here I am being so proud of mine in SoCal! :lol: Those are ridiculous! Will post photos this weekend.

 

 

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6 hours ago, Matt in OC said:

Here are my two. These were Floribunda 1g a few years ago. 

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I’d be proud of them. Very proud.

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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Nicely grown B. condapanna’s are perhaps my favorite palm. Or at least towards the top of my list. I just love the coloring. I have always been jealous of how nice they look in Hawaii. I am impressed with Matt in OC’s though.

I have one as well I got from Floribunda but it isn’t doing so great. It has been putting out very short leafs. I want to get another and try a new location in my yard.

Great pics guys.

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Matt, those look great and have really grown. A BIG thumbs up!

Tim

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Tim

Hilo, Hawaii

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Greg, I'd get a couple more if you’re game to try it again. Some palms, even within the same species, can be hardier than the others. Getting 

just one really limits your success.

Tim

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OK, Tim, just took a pic with the 5-gaL orange bucket. The larger one on the left produced a small inflorescence a year ago. A couple of fruits partially developed, but were not viable. I need to fertilize. Fortunately, I mowed this section only yesterday. Background facts: seeds from RPS sowed July 2010, two juvenile plants planted out in a full sun location from 2-gal buckets in Nov 2012. I suspect my palms will never catch up with Tim's great- looking ones, but they seem to be keeping pace.

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Big Island of Hawaii, windward, rainy side, 740 feet (225 meters) elevation

165 inches (4,200 mm) of rain per year, 66 to 83 deg F (20 to 28 deg C) in summer, 62 to 80 deg F (16.7 to 26.7 Deg C) in winter.

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I was lucky enough to get three of these palms from the first batch of a handful of seeds that Jerry Andersen brought in about three years before the batch that Tim and Mike have. I have some of those as well. As already mentioned, these palms are fast in Hawaii - probably in the top 5% of palms for me when it comes to speed.

These first ones are now approaching 30 ft. tall and have been seeding for 2-3 years with copious seeds - akin to King palms in Calif. So get ready guys, in a few years your palms will be way overhead with more seeds than you know what to do with. That reminds me. I'll have to check. I don't think I have seen any volunteers yet, although some seeds sent to a friend have sprouted.

Before you ask - I would take some pics, but these have grown through through the roof of some dense canopy and I really don't think there is an angle that would work for a good shot. I'll check when in the garden today.

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Cmon Dean, get that 30’ ladder out.

Tim

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Hilo, Hawaii

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Lookin good Mike, nice color and habit.

Tim

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3 hours ago, mike in kurtistown said:

OK, Tim, just took a pic with the 5-gaL orange bucket. The larger one on the left produced a small inflorescence a year ago. A couple of fruits partially developed, but were not viable. I need to fertilize. Fortunately, I mowed this section only yesterday. Background facts: seeds from RPS sowed July 2010, two juvenile plants planted out in a full sun location from 2-gal buckets in Nov 2012. I suspect my palms will never catch up with Tim's great- looking ones, but they seem to be keeping pace.

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So after 9 years they grow that tall? Without fertilizer? That is one heck of a return for your investment. :D. Wow! Congratulations. Magnificent palms

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Are they self-cleaning?

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24 minutes ago, realarch said:

Cmon Dean, get that 30’ ladder out.

Tim

I knew if I opened my mouth...........

You'll have to look hard to find them - terrible place for getting photos - plenty of seed still - but curiously, still no volunteers.

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4 minutes ago, Dypsisdean said:

I knew if I opened my mouth...........

You'll have to look hard to find them - terrible place for getting photos - plenty of seed still - but curiously, still no volunteers.

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I'm looking for the velociraptors

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3 minutes ago, GottmitAlex said:

I'm looking for the velociraptors

Try looking for gardening help - even harder to find. :)

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10 hours ago, realarch said:

Greg, I'd get a couple more if you’re game to try it again. Some palms, even within the same species, can be hardier than the others. Getting 

just one really limits your success.

 Tim

Tim, I totally agree with you and plan to do that. 

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Alex,

Yes, self-cleaning. I just remove the fallen fronds on the ground.

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Mike Merritt

Big Island of Hawaii, windward, rainy side, 740 feet (225 meters) elevation

165 inches (4,200 mm) of rain per year, 66 to 83 deg F (20 to 28 deg C) in summer, 62 to 80 deg F (16.7 to 26.7 Deg C) in winter.

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On 5/17/2019 at 5:09 PM, Matt in OC said:

Here are my two. These were Floribunda 1g a few years ago. 

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Matt - that looks great for California!  I had a few in my Fallbrook garden that always struggled and never looked this good. I’m curious how they are doing now. I’ll be back in a few weeks to see that garden so I’m curious. 

Anyways, great job with it. Not an easy palm in So Cal. 

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Tim - thanks for starting this thread!  Your Bentickia are amazing looking and are part of the reason I moved to Hilo!  When I first saw them (along with the rest of your garden), almost exactly two years ago when we were visiting I remember thinking “those are crazy fast, I need to move here!”  Less than 2 months later we had bought our house!

Mike - yours look great!  Nice to see them out in the open like that!

Dean - Wow!!  I need to make it back over there sometime. 

Looking forward to seeing some more on here!

I’ll post pictures of mine tomorrow.  Nothing quite like the other Hawaiian pics on here, but they’ve only been in the ground for about a year and a half. 

 

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 Such a great thread looks like there’s another palm out there I need to get He he.  Thanks Tim for getting this one started and everyone who contributed  I really enjoyed seeing the photos.

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Hello there,

ordered seeds a while ago - got somehow hooked with this species -

but they are still 'sleeping'. I hope I can 'join the club' some day ;)

Great images, thank's to everyone for posting.

 

Best regards from Okinawa -

Lars

 

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I have 3 planted in my driveway planter so I see them multiple times  every day as I come and go from the house. 

These were planted out about 18 months ago from 1 gallon pots (from Floribunda). The one on the far left is a bit smaller than the other 2 but is still growing pretty fast  

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I can’t show off with a 5 gallon bucket for scale yet, so the soda can will have to do! 

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Dean, almost looks like Sri Lanka habitat photos until I spotted that stellar Wettinia. Nice!

Jason,a BIG mahalo! Ahhhh, I remember when my B. condapanna looked like that. Enjoy them when they are this size, the color and robust habit at eye level never gets mundane. 

Tim

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Hilo, Hawaii

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Here's a photo of when I planted these.  They are the three palms on the far left of the pic.  This was taken in January, 2018. 

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Very nice palm, great photos.

Larry Shone in wet and sunny north-east England!  Zone9 ish

Tie two fish together and though they have two tails they cannot swim <>< ><>

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21 hours ago, Hilo Jason said:

Matt - that looks great for California!  I had a few in my Fallbrook garden that always struggled and never looked this good. I’m curious how they are doing now. I’ll be back in a few weeks to see that garden so I’m curious. 

Anyways, great job with it. Not an easy palm in So Cal. 

Agreed!  Nicely done Matt.  Definitely not an easy grow in SoCal.  I have killed three and have one in the ground that is not moving at all.  I need to dig it and compost it.  ...and I have a Bottle Palm that is doing very well in my yard.  Which should say something about how temperamental these are here compared to other hard grows.

But if you find a hardy individual and nail the location you can have some real eye candy.

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What's easier to grow in California?

Bentinckia condapanna or Hyophorbe lagenicaulis?

(Not referring to what's more popular/common) 

 

5 year high 42.2C/108F (07/06/2018)--5 year low 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)--Lowest recent/current winter: 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)

 

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Interesting to hear about their fickleness. Maybe I’ve gotten lucky. I have another one in deep shade that looks sickly but is still managing to grow. Maybe Jeff had a really robust batch a while back. 

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9 hours ago, Hilo Jason said:

I have 3 planted in my driveway planter so I see them multiple times  every day as I come and go from the house. 

These were planted out about 18 months ago from 1 gallon pots (from Floribunda). The one on the far left is a bit smaller than the other 2 but is still growing pretty fast  

 

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I can’t show off with a 5 gallon bucket for scale yet, so the soda can will have to do! 

 

 

 

Honestly it looks better than a bottle palm. But with the same colors as a juvenile.

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39 minutes ago, GottmitAlex said:

What's easier to grow in California?

Bentinckia condapanna or Hyophorbe lagenicaulis?

(Not referring to what's more popular/common) 

 

Hyophorbe Lagenicaulis was a stronger grower for me in Fallbrook. But I should add that it was a California grown one. The Florida imports are another story. 

 

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On 5/19/2019 at 10:04 PM, GottmitAlex said:

What's easier to grow in California?

Bentinckia condapanna or Hyophorbe lagenicaulis?

(Not referring to what's more popular/common) 

 

In my experience the Hyophorbe.

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Here is mine in So Cal. Trouble free palm.

 

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Rock Ridge Ranch

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5 miles ENE Rancho Bernardo

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4 hours ago, Gtlevine said:

Here is mine in So Cal. Trouble free palm.

 

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This is nicest pic in California I’ve seen I think. Looks great. Love this palm.

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Your palm looks great Gary and........I covet your big rocks. :crying:

Tim

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Hilo, Hawaii

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Thanks so much to all who have posted such beautiful palms!

My three seedlings were stuck into the ground after hurricane Maria on a rather steep slope behind my house and more or less left to fend for themselves as I worked hard on other areas of my farm.

Now I have improved accessibility and dug out some nearby bananas and they are responding.

More sun and fewer competing vines.

The rain helps too, but prevents me from snapping a photo now. Not much to see yet anyway as they only have a few baby leaves.

Cindy Adair

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