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Can somebody help me ID this Sabal sp

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Alberto

Today I visited San Juan in Porto Rico and saw this Sabal sp planted everywhere. I collected some seeds. Can you ID it for me? Thanks!

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Alberto

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The Steve

I’ve never seeds that big...  maybe S. Causation (Puerto Rican Hat Palm) or S. Domengensis?  Are there lingules?   Riverside and Mexicans (among others) have large seeds as well.

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buffy

I'll shoot. Sabal maritima. 

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Alberto

Thanks for your answers, guys! I didn'look close to the palms ligules, usefull to ID a S.  causiarum. But the trunks of S. causiarum are more massive.

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sarasota alex

Definitely not S. maritima, S. domingensis, or S. causiarum, based on the seeds. 

Actually looking at the seed size and shape alone, our possibilities get narrowed down to S. rosei, S. pumos, S. gretheriae, and maybe if we stretch - S. mexicana. S. gretheriae wouldn't consistently hold leaf bases like these palms and it's unlikely to be cultivated at scale anywhere outside of Yucata, so we are left with 3 possible species. The inflorescence that can be observed on the closest palm, however, is too long for S. pumos, so that leaves S. mexicana and S. rosei as the two possibilities.  I leaning towards S. rosei on the basis that it seems to me that the seeds are not solid black, but have some greenish, brownish shade to them as well, which S. rosei may have, but not S. mexicana when ripe. 

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The Steve
On 5/15/2019 at 5:22 PM, The Steve said:

I’ve never seeds that big...  maybe S. Causation (Puerto Rican Hat Palm) or S. Domengensis?  Are there lingules?   Riverside and Mexicans (among others) have large seeds as well.

*mexicana was auto-corrected...

 

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